[I. CALL TO ORDER]
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ACTIISIO RMEATION OF TITY MER. ANYITY BOARDR COMEELUDI THORIT COUNC, ANYL AORYOARD, TU ON,ECISN OR MANGROSS ON,SIRECOMATIONWHHOREET COMMIS OIT B COE, INCLUNGBUT NOT MITED T QSIUDICIA OR CNCILRESEATIONSETY THTY'SAL CLAIM NC CHAPTEROF T WICLLY CAHE CABSY CODE. OFALABLESISTORI P.M. PNT TAYRE.SI:1 REZ, MS SPA, MR. GARCIA PONS, MYSELF AND MR. SILVA. MISS EVERETT AND MISS DANNY ARE EXCUSED, AND MISS SILVA MAY JOIN US. I MEAN, MISS SHIELD MAY JOIN US OR. YES, MISS ROLANDO AND MISS SHIELDS SHOULD BE ARRIVING SOON. AND MISS AND MISS DANNY ARE EXCUSED. THANK YOU. ALL OF YOU ARE DISTINGUISHED PERSONS. AND SO I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE EVERY ONE OF YOU AS. WELCOME TO HERE TO OUR MEETING TODAY. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL
[III. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES]
OF THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING HELD IN FEBRUARY. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS BOARD? NONE. DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES? MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES.BY MR. GARCIA PONS. SECOND. SECOND BY MR. SILVA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MOTION CAN'T. MINUTES ARE ACCEPTED. OKAY. PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THIS BOARD IS A QUASI JUDICIAL BOARD. AND THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE, WHICH REQUIRES BOARD MEMBERS TO DISCLOSE ALL EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS AND EX PARTE COMMUNICATION IS DEFINED AS ANY CONTACT, COMMUNICATION, CONVERSATION, CORRESPONDENCE, MEMORANDUM OR OTHER WRITTEN OR VERBAL COMMUNICATION THAT TAKES PLACE OUTSIDE A PUBLIC HEARING BETWEEN A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND A MEMBER OF THE OF A QUASI JUDICIAL BOARD REGARDING MATTERS TO BE HEARD BY THE QUASI JUDICIAL BOARD. IF ANYONE HAS MADE ANY CONTACT WITH A BOARD MEMBER WHEN THE ISSUE COMES BEFORE THE BOARD, THE MEMBER MUST STATE ON THE RECORD THE EXISTENCE OF THE EX PARTE COMMUNICATION, THE PARTY WHO ORIGINATED THE COMMUNICATION, AND WHETHER THE COMMUNICATION WILL AFFECT THE BOARD MEMBERS ABILITY TO IMPARTIALLY CONSIDER THE EVIDENCE TO BE PRESENTED
[IV. CHANGES TO THE AGENDA]
REGARDING THE MATTER DEFERRALS. I HAVE NO DEFERRALS AT THIS TIME. THE ONLY CHANGE TO THE AGENDA THAT I'D LIKE TO REQUEST IS HEARING. CASE FILE LHD 2025 011 AND C O S P 2025 027 FOR 2509. INDIAN MOUND TRAIL TOWARD THE END OF THE MEETING. OKAY, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT ITEM SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLEX AND PROBABLY REQUIRE PRETTY LENGTHY DISCUSSION TO THE END, IF YOU DON'T MIND. IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM THAT TO DISCUSS THAT ITEM? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY, WE'LL IF YOU'D LIKE, WE'LL TAKE A, YOU CAN TAKE A BREAK AND COME BACK AND WE'LL DO THAT. SO SINCE IT IS COMPLEX, WE'RE ASKING THAT THOSE COMPLEX ITEMS BE PUT TOWARD THE END SO THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH EVERYTHING A LITTLE MORE EXPEDITIOUSLY, AND THEN ALLOW THE PARTIES ON THESE PARTICULAR TYPES OF ITEMS MORE TIME TO EXPLAIN AND GO THROUGH WHAT IT IS. SO IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO EVERYONE ELSE, THAT WILL BE THE CHANGE. OKAY.BOARD MEMBERS, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS AS WE GET GOING, PLEASE DISCLOSE THOSE. OKAY. SWEARING IN, IF YOU WOULD, IF ANY PERSONS IN THE AUDIENCE WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY OR MAKING PRESENTATION, PLEASE RISE TO BE SWORN IN.
INFORMATION SHOULD. I. YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. MISS SHIELD HAS JOINED US. YES. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE FIRST ITEM. RELOCATED IS SPECIAL
[1. CASE FILE COA (SP) 2025-023: An application for the issuance of a Special Certificate of Appropriateness for the property at 2615 Alhambra Circle, a Contributing Resource within the “Alhambra Circle Historic District,” legally described as Lots 21 & 22 Block 10, Coral Gables Section “D,” according to the Plat thereof, as recorded in Plat Book 25, at Page 74, of the Public Records of Miami-Dade County, Florida. The application requests design approval for additions and alterations and sitework.]
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CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS. AND WE'RE GOING TO START WITH CASE FILE C O S P 2020 5-023.AN APPLICATION FOR THE EXISTING. FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A SPECIAL CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2615 ALHAMBRA CIRCLE, A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE WITHIN THE ALHAMBRA CIRCLE HISTORIC DISTRICT, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOTS. 2122 BLOCK TEN, CORAL GABLES, SECTION D PLAT PAGE PLAT BOOK 25, PAGE 74 MIAMI DADE APPLICANT REQUEST DESIGN APPROVAL FOR ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS TO THE SITE WORK. PRESENTATION. CAN YOU PUT THE POWERPOINT UP, PLEASE? I'LL START. OKAY, THERE WE GO. IT'S THE LOCATION MAP OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. IT'S ON ALHAMBRA CIRCLE, JUST NORTH OF SEVILLA AVENUE. IT IS A, A A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE WITHIN THE ALHAMBRA CIRCLE HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH WAS DESIGNATED IN 2008. IT IS A LATER ERA HOME BUILT IN 1951, THAT FIT WITHIN THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE DISTRICT, WHICH IS WHY IT'S CONTRIBUTING AND IT'S HAD VERY FEW ALTERATIONS. THIS IS A PHOTO FROM 1977, WHICH IS THE EARLIEST PHOTO THAT WE HAVE OF THE PROPERTY. THE APPLICATION REQUESTS APPROVAL FOR APPROXIMATELY 390 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE HOME. IT'S ATTACHED TO AN ALREADY ALTERED AREA OF THE HOUSE, AND SO IT WILL HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT ON THE EXISTING HISTORIC STRUCTURE. NEW IMPACT WINDOWS AND DOORS ARE ALSO PROPOSED. FULL INTERIOR REMODELING AND SOME VERY LIMITED SITE WORK. NO VARIANCES WERE REQUESTED. THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTS WITH CONDITIONS THAT MAINTAIN THE CHIMNEY ON THE EXTERIOR AS PER HISTORIC AND TO REMOVE ALL THE ACCORDION SHUTTERS WHICH I BELIEVE ARE HAVE ALL BEEN ACCOMMODATED. WE HAVE VERY MINOR CONDITIONS THAT ARE ON THE LAST TWO PAGES OF YOUR REPORT, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE ARCHITECT.
WONDERFUL. OKAY. CAN WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE REPRESENTATIVE? GOOD AFTERNOON. BOARD MICHAEL. GOOD AFTERNOON, JAMES SMITH, J. S GROUP ARCHITECTS PLANNERS HERE IN MIAMI. THIS KIND OF NONDESCRIPT HOME ON ON. PULL IT DOWN A LITTLE CLOSER, MR. SMITH.
OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THE MINOR ADDITIONS IN THE BACK OF THE HOME IS THE NORTHEAST CORNER. SO THE ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING IS ON THE ON THE REAR. LET'S SEE WHAT WE'VE GOT.
ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT WE STRIVE TO DO IS THE PHOTO THAT YOU SEE, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THE SPECIFIC YEAR WAS, BUT THERE ARE. I'M SORRY. OKAY. 77 AND THE HOME WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 51 OR 252. SO IT'S DOUBTFUL THAT THE AWNING WINDOWS WERE ORIGINAL. SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL SEE IN OUR OUR PROPOSAL IS THAT WE'RE GOING BACK TO WHAT WE BELIEVE WAS MORE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE APPROPRIATE OR MORE OF THE GENRE AT THE TIME, WHICH IS CASEMENT WINDOWS WITH HORIZONTAL MUNTINS ONLY APPLIED HORIZONTALLY. SO. THESE ARE CONTEXT PHOTOS FOR FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE ARE THIS IS THE HOUSE TO THE NORTH ON THE SAME SIDE ACROSS THE. DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. AND THIS IS THE TO THE SOUTHWEST AND NORTHWEST. AND THIS IS THIS IS THE HOME. NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP AT THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTS MEETING IS THE THE APPLIED SHUTTERS THAT ARE THERE ARE KIND OF DISPROPORTIONATELY OUT, OUT OF SCALE. THEY'RE WAY TOO. THEY'RE A LOT NARROWER THAN WHAT WAS ON THE HOUSE ORIGINALLY. WE HAD MADE A PROPOSAL AT ONE TIME JUST TO JUST TO REMOVE THOSE. BUT THEY, THEY'VE BEEN RETAINED.
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SO. AGAIN, ANOTHER, ANOTHER VIEW OF THE HOME FROM THE FRONT. NICE 50S, MID-CENTURY CLASSIC LOOK. AND NOTHING ON THE OUTSIDE IS GOING TO CHANGE EXCEPT A FRESH UP. SO. AND THIS IS THE REAR OF THE HOME. THERE WAS A COMMENT FROM STAFF THAT WE DIDN'T SEE UNTIL YESTERDAY ABOUT THE THE AWNING CANOPY. WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT THE AWNING BE REMOVED IN THE BACK.ALL WE'RE GOING TO DO IS PUT A DIFFERENT FABRIC COVER ON IT. THAT'S THAT'S IT. NOW THE ADDITION IS GOING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE OF THE VIEW HERE. WHICH WILL CONVERT THAT SPACE TO A MASTER BEDROOM SUITE. AND WE'RE GOING TO REPLAN JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON THE STEPS IN THE EXTERIOR. AGAIN THE AWNING. ■THIS IS THE AREA OF WORK. OKAY, SO THE. THIS IS THE ADDITION AREA IN THE BACK FACING EAST AND NORTH. THIS IS THE EXISTING PLAN. NOW WITH THE THIS ADDITION THAT WAS DONE IN THE 60S IS THE SUBJECT OF THE MAJOR RENOVATION TO THE SPACE.
AND THIS. AND THE KITCHEN AT THE INTERIOR. AGAIN, THIS IS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN. THE.
THERE ARE NO POOL. POOL. NO POOL. TERRACE CHANGES IN THIS AREA. THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE JUST RESURFACED. THE. THE ADDITION TO THE OUTSIDE IS IN THESE TWO AREAS HERE WITH. WITH A SMALL TERRACE. RIGHT? RIGHT AT THIS LOCATION. THESE ARE EXISTING AND PROPOSED ELEVATIONS. AGAIN, WE'VE. WE'VE SHOWN THAT THE THE WINDOWS, THE SHUTTERS ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED. THE WINDOWS ARE GOING TO BE REPLACED WITH THE CASEMENTS. AND I THINK IT'S A PROBABLY A MORE TRADITIONAL LOOK THAN THAN WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. IN THE REAR. ACTUALLY, I THINK THAT WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THE HOUSE WAS I DON'T KNOW WHAT YEAR THE HOUSE WAS DESIGNATED. CARA OH EIGHT. SO THE, THE ADDITION OF THE, THE ADDITION ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER THAT WAS DONE AT THE TIME CERTAINLY WAS NOT DONE WITH ANY KIND OF OVERVIEW FROM HISTORIC. AND THAT'S ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE. IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. MICHAEL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BOARD QUESTIONS. I'VE GOT ONE, MR. SMITH, ON THE FRONT ELEVATION, YOU'RE REPLACING A WINDOW. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY A BATHROOM WINDOW.
THEY'RE ALL SIZE FOR SIZE. YEAH, IT'S A B SIZE. IS THAT GOING TO HAVE BUTTONS IN IT OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE. BECAUSE I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING IN THE DRAWING ON THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST A PUNCH WINDOW. LET ME SEE WHAT. SO ONE OF OUR CONDITIONS IN STAFF REPORT WAS THAT THE WINDOW MUNTIN PATTERN SHOULD MORE CLOSELY ALIGN WITH THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS THAT ARE WERE AWNING. AND WE'VE DONE THAT. THEY CAN BE CASEMENT TYPE WINDOWS, BUT THEY NEED TO HAVE LIKE KIND OF A HORIZONTAL LOOK TO THEM. WE'VE DONE THAT ELSEWHERE ON THE STREET ON ALHAMBRA FOR THIS, THIS TYPE AND STYLE OF HOUSE. SO WE WILL WORK WITH THEM TO ADJUST THE MUNTIN PATTERN AROUND THE PROPERTY. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. BOARD. MISS ALVAREZ. MISS SPAIN. MR. GARCIA, I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION IS THE STAFF HAD 11 CONDITIONS. ARE YOU. YOU'RE FINE WITH THE 11 CONDITIONS.
JUST WANT TO HEAR IT. WE WILL. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, MR. SILVA, NO QUESTIONS. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT MISS ROLANDO HAS ARRIVED. MR. ROLANDO, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE. ABOUT THE PRESENTATION YOU JUST MISSED? I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST IF I DID NOT CAST A VOTE ON THIS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE FINE. WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM, MISS SHIELD. ANY QUESTIONS? NO. NO QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. BOARD. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ANY
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MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM OR ANYONE IN FAVOR OF THIS IN THE AUDIENCE? OKAY. IF NOT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK HERE TO THE BOARD. MR. SMITH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY PLEASURE. CLEAR PRESENTATION. MY PLEASURE.THANK YOU. BOARD. WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION. MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A SPECIAL CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2615 ALHAMBRA CIRCLE, A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE WITHIN THE ALHAMBRA CIRCLE HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND DESIGN APPROVAL FOR THE ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS IN SITE WORK WITH THE 11 CONDITIONS AS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. VERY GOOD. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM MISS SPAIN. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MISS ALVAREZ? YES, MISS SHIELDS. YES, MISS. EXCUSE ME. I KNOW MISS SPAIN.
YES, MR. GARCIA PONCE. YES, THREE, MR. SILVA. YES. FIVE ZERO. AND I VOTE YES TO. EXCUSE ME. AND I VOTE YES AS WELL. I APOLOGIZE, CHAIRPERSON MAXWELL. MR. MAXWELL, I VOTE YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU THAT, MR. SMITH. THANK YOU. MOTION PASSED. YOU'RE YOU'RE GOOD TO GO WITH.
GET YOUR PERMIT AND HAVE AT IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CASE
[2. CASE FILE COA (SP) 2026-014: An application for the issuance of a Special Certificate of Appropriateness for the property at 2017 Alhambra Circle, a Non-Contributing Resource within the “Alhambra Circle Historic District,” legally described as Lot 4 less SWLY 26.4’ & Lot 5, Block 14, Coral Gables Section “E,” according to the Plat thereof, as recorded in Plat Book 8, at Page 13, of the Public Records of Miami-Dade County, Florida. The application requests design approval for additions and alterations and sitework.]
FILE C O S P 2026 DASH 14. AND APPLICATION FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A SPECIAL CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2017 ALHAMBRA CIRCLE, A NONCONTRIBUTING RESOURCE WITHIN THE ALHAMBRA CIRCLE HISTORIC DISTRICT LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT FOUR LESS. THE SOUTH WEST CORNER OF -26.4 AND LOT FIVE, BLOCK 14, CORAL GABLES, SECTION E PLAT BOOK EIGHT, PAGE 13. MIAMI DADE RECORDS APPLICATION REQUEST DESIGN APPROVAL FOR ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS AND SITE WORK. THANK YOU. SO JUST UP THE STREET FROM THE LAST APPLICATION IS 20 017 ALHAMBRA CIRCLE. IT'S RIGHT ON THE CURVE JUST SOUTH OF THE ALHAMBRA WATER TOWER. IT IS A NONCONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE WITHIN THE DISTRICT. IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN THE 1950S, BUT IN 2005 2006, IT WAS COMPLETELY REMODELED. SECOND FLOOR ADDED.IT WAS IT'S LIKE A NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO IT IS CONSIDERED NONCONTRIBUTING.
IT'S THE CURRENT PHOTO OF THE PROPERTY. THEY ARE REQUESTING DESIGN APPROVAL FOR ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS TO THE RESIDENCE, PRIMARILY TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. THERE IS A ONE STORY ABOUT 160 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION TO THE NORTHWEST FRONT CORNER OF THE HOME, AND AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT IS LABELED AS A CARPORT ON THE PROPOSED PLANS, BUT IT WILL.
ZONING. IT'S TO. IT DOESN'T MEET THE DIMENSIONS FOR A CARPORT, SO IT'S. IT'S WILL BE RELABELED AS A PORCH. IT'S JUST TO PROVIDE AN ENTRY TO THE. AN ENTRY LANDING SPACE TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. THE ADDITION TO THE REAR IS A IS A TWO STORY AUXILIARY STRUCTURE LABELED AS A POOL HOUSE. IT'S IT'S A CONNECTED TO THE HOUSE WITH A ONE STORY COVERED TERRACE SITE. WORK INCLUDES THE EXISTING SWIMMING POOL, NEW POOL DECK AND NEW CMU WALL AND FENCE. AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE HOME. THE OWNER IS HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE ARCHITECT IS THE ARCHITECT HERE. NO, I'M JUST HERE. OKAY. ALL YOU GOT TO TELL ME HOW TO USE THIS THING.
ARROWS FORWARD. YEP. OKAY. SO. HELLO. HI. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN THE HOUSE FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS RONALD POTTER. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT THE HOUSE BACK IN 1996 WHEN WE WERE YOUNG. NOW WE'RE OLDER. AND WE BUILT THIS ONE IN OH IN OH SIX, 0506 AS SHE SAID. SO MY NEIGHBOR JUST PUT UP A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO MINE WHERE I HAD A NICE LITTLE, YOU KNOW, 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE BEFORE. SO MY WIFE AND I LOOKED AT EACH OTHER AND SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT AS WELL DO SOMETHING. AND SO I FIGURED WE'D ENTERTAIN OURSELVES AND CAME UP WITH SOME IDEAS. WE'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO HAVE A SEPARATE POOL HOUSE, LIKE A GYM, AND JUST A PLACE TO KIND OF A MAN CAVE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. SO WE DESIGNED IT. WE'RE GOING TO I WANTED TO PUT A LITTLE PORCH ON THE FRONT BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL
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DESIGN, AS WE'VE LIVED IN IT, IT JUST FELT TOO BIG OVER THERE. AND I WANTED SOMETHING ARCHITECTURALLY TO BREAK UP THAT LONG WALL. SO WE CREATED THAT LITTLE PORCH PORT. THEN AS YOU MOVE TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, THESE ARE YOUR VIEWS. THAT'S THAT'S THE POOL HOUSE THAT'S CONNECTED NOW TO THE MAIN HOUSE AND EVERYTHING MATCHES. THE WINDOWS ARE THE EXACT SAME SIZE. THE FRENCH DOORS ARE THE SAME. SO YOU HAVE A TWO STORY AREA THERE. WE'RE REDOING THE ENTIRE POOL TO GET AWAY FROM THE OLD, YOU KNOW, SWERVY POOL TO A MORE CONTEMPORARY SQUARISH STYLE POOL. LET'S SEE HERE. YOU CAN SEE IT HERE. LET'S SEE. SO ARCHITECTURALLY, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM THE FRONT. THERE'S YOUR FRONT VIEW AND THIS IS THE REAR VIEW. NOW THE NEW REAR VIEW. AND THEN THESE ARE YOUR SIDE VIEWS FROM WHEN YOU'RE IN THE BACKYARD. AND THAT'S IF YOU'RE IN THE POOL. THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD SEE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE POOL HOUSE AS YOU'RE BATHING IN THE POOL AND THERE'S A LITTLE BARBECUE AREA IN THERE, ETC. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO AND JUST MATCH UP WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. ROOF TILES WILL BE THE SAME, YOU KNOW, THE SAME S OR JUST ROUNDED BARREL TILE ROOFS, I GUESS YOU GUYS CALL THEM AND EVERYTHING ELSE JUST MATCHES UP. THAT'S IT. THERE YOU GO. OKAY, WELL THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. BOARD ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? MISS SHIELD, MISS ROLANDO, MR. SILVA, MR. GARCIA, IT'S EITHER MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF. WITH REGARDS TO. THE PROPOSED CARPORT, WHICH IS A PORCH NOW.THE. THERE'S. IT LOOKS LIKE A CARPORT. AND YOU CAN PARK A CAR IN IT. THE FRONT ARCH IS A ARCH FOR A CAR TO FIT. IS THERE ANY USE PROBLEM WITH SOMEBODY PARKING IN THEIR PORCH? LIKE IF THEY BUILD THIS THING AND THEY CALL IT A PORCH AND THEY PARK ON THEIR PORCH, IT'S LEGAL. YES.
I MEAN, YES, IT'S GOING TO BE LABELED AS A PORCH ON THE DRAWINGS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEET THE CURRENT REQUIRED DIMENSION, BUT THEY, THEY CAN USE IT AS THEY WISH. SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO USE ISSUE. I CAN, I CAN BUILD A PORCH ON MY HOUSE AND DRIVE MY CAR IN IT. YES, YES. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO HEAR IT. I HAVE TO GET IN TROUBLE. WE HAVE A CAR. YOU'RE VERY SMALL CAR. WHO NOW USE THEM AS DINING TERRACES. SO IT'S THE USE OF IT AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE, YOU KNOW, MEETS THE. IT'S NOT A CARPORT, IT'S A CAR PORCH. OKAY, I JUST DON'T. LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE OF POTENTIAL USE OF THAT SPACE, ANYTHING LARGER THAN A 911, IT'S NOT GOING TO FIT THERE. OKAY, SO IT'S ZONING LEGAL AND BUILDING LEGAL AND EVERYTHING LEGAL.
OKAY. THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION. I HAD THE SAME QUESTION. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NEITHER. OH, SORRY. IT'S JUST PRESS THE BUTTON ON THE I IT SEEMS LIKE. NOT A PORCH, NOT A CARPORT AND THAT IT GOES NOWHERE. THERE'S NO ENTRANCE THERE. SO I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. BUT TO ME, THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT'S SOMEWHAT BIZARRE. OKAY. I GUESS MY WIFE AND I COULD PUT A COUPLE OF LAWN CHAIRS AND LOOK AT THE WATER TOWER FROM THERE IF WE WANTED TO. WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO IT'S JUST IF YOU LOOK AT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DESIGN, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW I EVEN DIDN'T CATCH THIS BACK IN OH SIX, BUT THAT WALL OVER THERE TO THE LEFT LOOKS HORRENDOUS. IT JUST LOOKS PITIFUL. AND IT HAS TO BE BROKEN UP WITH SOMETHING THAT HAS SOME ARCHITECTURAL CONCEPT. AND THIS WAS THE BEST THING AFTER, I DON'T KNOW, THINKING THROUGH IT A MILLION TIMES THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE WITH THE HOUSE, TO MATCH EVERYTHING AND WHETHER WE EVEN EVER USE IT, I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL EVEN EVER USE IT, BUT I KNOW IT'LL MAKE THE HOUSE LOOK A LOT BETTER WHEN I DRIVE UP TO IT, BECAUSE WHAT'S THERE NOW IS TERRIBLE. I EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING A FOUNTAIN THERE AND OTHER THINGS. JUST SOMETHING HAS TO GO THERE. AND THAT WAS AFTER A LOT OF WORK. THAT'S WHAT WE CAME UP WITH. SO YOU COULD HAVE LAWN CHAIRS WITH WHEELS, LAWN CHAIRS WITH WHEELS. THERE YOU GO. YOU'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE KITCHEN. AND THE ADULT BEVERAGE REFRIGERATOR. I'LL HAVE TO TAKE MY, MY
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ROLLING COOLER OUT THERE WITH WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, BECAUSE I'M NOT SEEING THAT ON THE FLOOR PLAN. MY OFFICE ON THE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT WALL THERE, RIGHT THERE, IT'S MY OFFICE. I THOUGHT ABOUT BUSTING THAT WALL OUT. I CAN'T DO IT. THERE'S NO WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE YOU'RE. I'LL BE PARKING INSIDE MY HOUSE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO FEET MUCH. YOU KNOW, IT'S BECAUSE YOU SEE, THE WHOLE HOUSE IS ELEVATED. IT'S TWO FEET HIGHER. SO I SAID I WOULDN'T HAVE CARED TO GET RID OF MY OFFICE, BUT IT WAS GOING TO BE A STRUCTURAL NIGHTMARE TO TRY TO CONVERT THAT INTO A GARAGE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. DON'T THINK THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH MY MIND. IT DID. OR PUT A DOOR IN THERE OR SOMETHING. I MEAN, I THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING A DOOR, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE A C LITERALLY, RIGHT? THE ONLY PLACE I CAN GET IN THROUGH THE A C IS THERE. AND SO NOW EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, COMPLETELY REDONE. OKAY. DON'T THINK THAT A LOT OF THOUGHT DIDN'T GO INTO THIS.YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LIVE IN A PLACE FOR 30 YEARS, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU SEE EVERY LITTLE NOOK AND CRANNY AND SOME THINGS DRIVE YOU CRAZY. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS, MISS SPAIN.
ANY COMMENTS, MISS ALVAREZ? OH, ONLY UNLESS I MISSED IT ON THE REPORT. WERE THERE ANY COMMENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED? THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTS. THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTS LOVED IT.
OKAY, YEAH. DID THEY NOTICE A LITTLE CARPORT IN THE FRONT? THEY DID. THEY, THEY ACTUALLY THEY, THEY ACTUALLY LOVED IT. THEY, THEY, THEY WERE ABSOLUTELY 100% ON BOARD. AS A MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THEM SAID, YOU CAN PUT A LITTLE, WHAT DO YOU CALL THOSE THINGS THAT EVERYBODY DRIVES AROUND AND DOWN THE KEYS, A LITTLE GOLF CART IN THERE IF YOU WANTED TO. YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE MOVING AROUND CORAL GABLES IN YOUR LITTLE DELUXE GOLF CART, YOU COULD STOP IN THERE. NOT THAT I'M EVER GOING TO HAVE A GOLF CART IN THE FRONT OF MY HOUSE AT 2017 ALHAMBRA, THOUGH I'D LIKE TO GIVE IT ONE MORE SHOT. SURE. AND THE QUESTION IS, IS WE TRY NOT TO PROMOTE GARAGES AND CARPORTS FACING THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. AND HERE WE ARE. WE'RE ADDING NOT A CARPORT TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, RIGHT? IF IT'S A PORCH, THEY'RE USUALLY ARCHITECTURAL WAYS TO DEFINE A PORCH. AND HAVING ONE BIG OPENING FOR A CAR IS NOT THAT WAY. OKAY, WOULD YOU CONSIDER, AS YOU HAVE ON THE SIDES, HAVING A NICE TRI ARCHED AREA IN THE FRONT THAT GOES DOWN AND THAT WAY? I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AS WELL AND ADDING IT TO THE MAIN HOUSE. BUT THEN IN OTHER WORDS, IF I WAS GOING TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS TO PUT THREE ARCHES IN THE FRONT, THEN I GOT TO START BUSTING THROUGH WHERE THE AC IS. NO, JUST WHERE THE ARCHES REPLACE THE ARCH WITH THREE LITTLE ARCHES LIKE YOU HAVE ON THE SIDE. BUT THEN HOW AM I GETTING INTO MY LOVELY LITTLE PORCH? I'M NOT GOING TO JUMP THROUGH AN ARCH, YOU KNOW, WALK IN THROUGH THE ARCH. YOU KNOW, I'D REALLY MUCH RATHER NOT HAVE TO DO THAT, QUITE HONESTLY. I MEAN, IF I DID THE THREE ARCHES, IT WOULD BE TO ENCLOSE THE AREA AND THEN I'D HAVE TO TAKE SQUARE FOOTAGE AWAY FROM THE. BECAUSE I'M, I'M LIKE AT MY MAX ON THE BACK AREA. AND SO THAT WOULD MEAN I'D HAVE TO REDESIGN THAT WHOLE BACK AREA, YOU KNOW, FROM SCRATCH. YOU DON'T. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CHANGING THE WAY YOU ENTER YOUR PORCH FROM A CAR DRIVEWAY INTO A HUMAN SIZED. I WOULD HATE TO DO THAT. THEN I'VE GOT A MILLION ARCHES IN THE FRONT OF MY HOUSE, TOO. I THINK THE BIG ARCH ACTUALLY BREAKS IT UP. I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ARCHES, ARCHES, ARCHES. THAT ONE ACTUALLY MATCHES MY FRONT ARCH TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE DESIGNED IT THAT WAY, IS TO MATCH IT UP TO MY EXISTING ENTRANCE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE HOUSE. IF YOU WANT TO REPEAT THE SIZE AND SCALE OF YOUR FRONT DOOR ARCH OVER THERE, THAT WOULD WORK TOO WELL. THAT WOULD LOOK TERRIBLE.
THE WALL'S TOO BIG. I MEAN, LOOK AT THE SIZE OF LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THE CUPOLA THAT'S THERE.
AND THEN LOOK AT THAT SIZE. IT'S DOUBLE THE SIZE. IT LOOK TERRIBLE. IT'S SOMETHING AN ARCHITECT CAN DEFINITELY HANDLE VERY DEFTLY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SINGLE LARGE. YOU CAN HAVE SIDE OPENINGS. THERE ARE. THERE ARE REALLY THOUSANDS OF WAYS TO TREAT THAT FRONT. I THINK I WOULD PROBABLY JUST HAVING IT AS A CAR. I THINK I WOULD JUST NIX THE WHOLE THING AND JUST LIVE WITH THE UGLY WALL BEFORE I, YOU KNOW, GO TO DO THAT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
OKAY. THAT WAS, I MEAN, I JUST FIGURED I COULD MAKE MORE SHOTS SO I WOULD NIX THE WHOLE FRONT AT LEAST, AND JUST BE DONE WITH IT, YOU KNOW, AND NOT DO IT. MISS ROLANDO, I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ARCH. I THINK MY ISSUE IS IT DOESN'T READ AS A PORCH. NO. AND THERE'S LOTS OF PORCHES, ESPECIALLY IN THE MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL HOMES IN CORAL GABLES, WHERE THEY'RE SCREENED IN FRONT PORCHES. AND PEOPLE DO USE THEM. SO I'M, I WOULD BE FINE WITH IF THERE WERE A STEP UP. SO IT READ AS A PORCH RATHER THAN A TRUNCATED CARPORT. OKAY. SO I WILL REMIND YOU ALL THAT THIS IS NONCONTRIBUTING IN A DISTRICT AND OUR OUR AS STAFF, OUR PRIMARY FOCUS IS TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO REAL NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND
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IT IN MY OPINION, THIS DOES NOT NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE DISTRICT. SO THANK YOU. MICHELLE. ANY QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. MR. SILVA, MISS ALVAREZ. NO. MISS SPAIN. NO. MR. GARCIA. OKAY, GOOD.WELL, THANK YOU, SIR. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THIS PART OF THE MEETING, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ONLINE AND FOR THE PUBLIC. HEARING, ANYONE ONLINE OR IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THAT. WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND CLOSE THAT PART OF THE MEETING. OKAY.
BOARD. ANY DISCUSSION? I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT TO DEATH. I'LL MAKE A X-RAY. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. I'M SORRY. IT'S ON NOW. ALL RIGHT. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. OH I'M SORRY, SOMEONE HAS A QUESTION. THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT WORKING WITH ZONING. COULD YOU JUST TELL ME WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT? WHAT DID SHE SAY? IT SAID STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ZONING ON LOWERING NEW WALL AND GATES UPDATING. THERE WERE SOME ZONING COMMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED THAT PERTAIN TO THE PERIMETER, THE SIDE WALL THAT THEY NEEDED IT TO BE LOWERED.
AND THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT OVERALL AFFECTING THE DESIGN OF THE ADDITIONS. THEY WERE JUST MINOR COMMENTS ON THE PLANS THAT WILL WORK WITH THEM TO ADDRESS THEM AS THEY MOVE THROUGH PERMITTING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BOARD. EXCUSE ME, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BOARD? IF NOT MISS SPAIN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DESIGN PROPOSAL FOR ADDITIONS TO THE RESIDENCE AND SITE WORK ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2017 ALHAMBRA CIRCLE, A NONCONTRIBUTING RESOURCE WITHIN THE ALHAMBRA CIRCLE LANDMARK AND INCORPORATING THOSE CONDITIONS THAT ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT. THERE ARE FIVE OF THEM AND APPROVE WITH THOSE CONDITIONS ON ISSUANCE OF A SPECIAL CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MISS SPAIN.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. SECOND FROM MR. SILVA. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MISS ALVAREZ.
MISS SHIELDS. YES, MR. GARCIA. PONCE. NO, MISS ROLANDO. RELUCTANTLY. NO. OKAY, OKAY.
MR. SILVA. YES. MISS SPAIN. YES. AND MR. MAXWELL. YES. OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. WE'RE
[3. CASE FILE COA(SP)2026-008: An application for the issuance of a Special Certificate of Appropriateness for the building currently located on the University of Miami Campus referred to as “Apartment Building #35 (La Gorce House)” located at 1233 Dickinson Drive, a Local Historic Landmark, lengthy legal description on file, according to the Plat thereof, as recorded in Plat Book 46, at Page 81, of the Public Records of Miami-Dade County, Florida. The application requests design approval for additions, alterations and sitework.]
GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS CASE FILE C O A S P 2026 008. APPLICATION FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A SPECIAL CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE BUILDING, CURRENTLY LOCATED ON THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI CAMPUS, REFERRED TO AS APARTMENT BUILDING. 35 LA GORCE HOUSE, LOCATED AT 1233 DICKINSON DRIVE. A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK. LENGTHY LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS ON FILE ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF AND PLAT BOOK 46, PAGE 81.MIAMI-DADE COUNTY RECORDS APPLICANT REQUEST DESIGN APPROVAL FOR ADDITIONS, ALTERATIONS AND SITE WORK PRESENTATION, PLEASE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE HOUSE JUST SOUTH OF THE LAKE. THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT WAS DESIGNATED, I BELIEVE. OH, I'M SORRY, IT'S NOT IN HERE. SO THIS WAS A PROPERTY THAT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING ORIGINAL STEEL FRAME WINDOWS, INTERIOR RENOVATIONS, AND THE ADDITION OF AN ELEVATOR TOWER WITH CONNECTING WALKWAYS AT THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS. A SIMILAR SCOPE OF WORK HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN APPROVED FOR BUILDING 34. THE PENTLAND HOUSE UNDER C O S P 2021 002. IN APRIL 2021. AS PART OF THE APPROVAL, STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT THE MOUNTAINS ARE HIGH PROFILE AND THAT THE WINDOWS AT THE BUILDING HAVE CLEAR GLASS, NO TINT AND NO MIRROR FINISH. I WILL LET THE APPLICANT COME UP AND. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU APPLICANT. LET'S SEE. SO. WEINER MIGHT NOT WORK, BUT UP AND DOWN. OKAY. FOR ALL THOSE SPEAKING, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME CLEARLY AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. THESE MICROPHONES ARE NOT THAT SENSITIVE. SO IF YOU WOULD LEAN IN. THANK YOU. SURE. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS
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DAPHNE GURI. I'M PRINCIPAL WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM PREPARING THESE PLANS. YES. AND FABIO SEGRE, SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER AT. AND AS THE SCOPE OF THE WORK HAS BEEN ALREADY DESCRIBED, THE REASON WHY THIS PROJECT EXISTS IS TO REPLACE ALL THE BUILDING SYSTEMS, TO REPLACE EXTERIOR WINDOWS AND DOORS, AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, PROVIDE ADA ACCESSIBILITY, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME PRESERVING THE INTEGRITY OF THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING TO AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO ME. AS I STUDIED AT THE SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE AND IN 1985, GRADUATED IN 88. SO IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING TO BE FULL CIRCLE HERE PRESENTING THIS PROJECT. AND AS I WAS, WAS ALREADY DESCRIBED, SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF THE BUILDING THAT MAKE IT UNIQUE ARE THE EXTERIOR STAIRWAYS, THE BREEZEWAYS CROSS VENTILATION, THE WINDOWS, ESPECIALLY THE RAILINGS. AND IN GENERAL, THERE'S AN OPENNESS AND VERY. AND I WANT TO ADD ONE THING, THE VERY SUBTLENESS OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BY MARION MANLEY. HISTORICALLY, THE BUILDINGS WERE. THERE WERE MANY BUILDINGS. SOME OF THEM HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEMOLISHED. WE HAVE HERE ADJACENT TO THE SITE, THE JORGE PEREZ ARCHITECTURAL CENTER, DESIGNED BY LEON KRIER. THE MURPHY DESIGN STUDIO DESIGNED BY ARCHITECT TANAKA, AND SOME OTHER NOTABLE NICE, BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS LIKE THE MILLER BILL, BILL LAB AND THE THEATER ARTS BUILDING, WHICH WAS A RENOVATION. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE APARTMENT BUILDING, WHICH ALREADY RECEIVED SOME SIMILAR IMPROVEMENTS. WE TOOK A LOT OF CARE IN FIGURING OUT WHAT THE IMPLICATION WAS OF BRINGING IN A NEW VERTICAL ELEMENT, LIKE THE ELEVATOR INTO THIS BUILDING, BECAUSE IT HAS VERY STRONG HORIZONTAL LINES. SO IN DOING THAT, WE REALLY LITERALLY WALKED AROUND THE BUILDING AND TRIED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES AND CONSTRAINTS AND HOW PEOPLE WALK THROUGH THE SITE. AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF KEY THINGS. FOR EXAMPLE, IN SLIDE B, PHOTOGRAPH B, THAT'S THE CORNER WHERE YOU HAVE THE THE FPL TRANSFORMER VAULT. WE LOOKED AT THAT CORNER. WE ALSO LOOKED AT, OF COURSE, SPOT NUMBER. SLIDE A PHOTOGRAPH, A THAT'S THE SITE WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT MORE INTENSELY AND WHERE WE ULTIMATELY CHOSE TO PLACE THE ELEVATOR. BUT WE WALKED AROUND THE WHOLE BUILDING TO SEE WHERE WE COULD CONNECT, PROVIDE THAT VERTICAL ACCESSIBILITY, AND NOT DESTROY THE BEAUTY OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE SITE UTILITIES AND HOW STUDENTS USE THE THE SITE NOW. SO THE GREEN LINE IS IS A HEAVILY TRAFFICKED AREA FOR STUDENTS TRAVELING BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, MOSTLY THE ARCHITECTURE STUDENTS. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE IN THE RED LINE THAT SHOWS WHERE YOU HAVE A SERVICE ACCESS THAT TAKES YOU TO CENTENNIAL VILLAGE. AND SO ONE THING THAT WAS ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTS WAS HOW WE COULD, IN THE SELECTION OF OUR, OF OUR SITE, PROVIDE SOME KIND OF CONNECTIVITY TO THE MURPHY DESIGN STUDIO AND THE PARIS ART ARCHITECTURAL CENTER, AS THERE IS NONE AT THIS TIME. THIS IS JUST A PHOTOGRAPH OF ALL THE UTILITIES. AS WE WERE LOOKING FOR THE SITE, WE WERE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE FEASIBILITY OF WHAT'S BURIED UNDER THE ROAD? WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT OF TRYING TO PUT THE THE BUILDING ELEVATOR TOWER IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE BUILDING, AND THE CIRCLE THAT HAS A RED DASH IS THE AREA THAT WE DEEM TO BE THE THE ONE THAT HAD THE LEAST IMPACT WITH THE BURIED UTILITIES. IT DOES HAVE SOME. BUT THEIR ELECTRICAL. AND THEY CAN BE REROUTED. SO THIS IS WHERE WE HAD HAVE SELECTED TO PUT THE NEW ELEVATOR TOWER. OF COURSE, WE WERE VERY CAREFUL HOW WE WERE GOING TO ARTICULATE THAT WITH THE EXISTING OPEN STAIR, WHICH IS A PRIMARY ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE OF THESE BUILDINGS. SO THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT SHOWS YOU THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND SHOWS YOU WHAT WOULD BE IMPACTED. IT'S BASICALLY SOME PARKING SPACES, BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IS REALLY GIVING STUDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY BY CREATING A SMALL PLAZA IN THE CORNER THAT AT LEAST HAS A SPACE THAT DRAWS YOUR ATTENTION. THIS IS KIND OF BRINGING YOU INTO THE INTO THE BUILDING, AND AT THE SAME TIME KIND OF SOLVES THE PROBLEM OF PROVIDING CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, BETWEEN THE GEORGE PARIS ART ARCHITECTURAL CENTER, USING THE SIDEWALKS AND CONNECTING IT INTO THE THE BUILDING AT THE GROUND FLOOR LEVEL BETWEEN THE EXISTING STAIR AND THE ELEVATOR. WE[00:40:03]
LOOKED AT HOW WE WERE GOING TO POSITION THE ELEVATOR IN OUR PREVIOUS DESIGN THAT WE HAD PRESENTED TO THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTS THAT WE HAD THE. THE ELEVATOR ROTATED 90 DEGREES AND WAS FACING FORWARD, WHICH MEANT THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY HAD TO DO MORE ARCHITECTURAL GESTURES TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE PROTECTION TO THE ELEVATOR. SO WE RECEIVED THEIR COMMENTS AND WE FLIPPED IT 90 DEGREES. AND IT OPENS NOW TO THE EXISTING STAIR. AND BY DOING SO, IT REALLY COMPRESSED THE FOOTPRINT THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE TAKING UP AND CREATED THIS VERY INTIMATE SPACE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO COME INTO THE ELEVATOR, BUT DOES NOT TOUCH THE EXISTING STAIR, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO ACHIEVE. AND THEN THE DRAWING UP AT THE TOP IS JUST BASICALLY THE DEMO PLAN. AS YOU CAN SEE, WHAT'S BEING REMOVED IS THE SOME INTERIOR WALLS TO BE ABLE TO CREATE STUDIO SPACES, BUT BASICALLY REMOVING ALL OF THE RESTROOMS AND REDESIGNING THE RESTROOMS SO THAT THEY CAN BE ADA ACCESSIBILITY. AND THEN OF COURSE, ALL OF THE BUILDING SYSTEMS AND THE WINDOWS, IT'S THE SAME APPLIES IN THE UPPER TWO FLOORS. THE SECOND AND THE THIRD FLOOR ARE EXACTLY THE SAME WITH OPEN, OPEN STUDIOS. AND THEN A CLOSER ENLARGED PLAN VIEW OF THE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE GROUND. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE CLOSE UP THE HOW YOU APPROACH THE, THE STUDIO SPACE. THIS IS REALLY THE CORNER WHERE EVERYBODY COMES INTO THE BUILDING. AND SO THEN WE WANTED TO AGAIN, DRAW PEOPLE TO COME INTO THE BUILDING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME NOT LET THE NEW PROPOSED ARCHITECTURE COMPETE WITH THE EXISTING BUILDING. SO IT CREATES A THE MOST EFFICIENT, SMALLEST FOOTPRINT POSSIBLE TO CREATE AN AREA OF CIRCULATION THAT YOU CAN COME INTO THE STUDIO SPACE AND AT THE SAME TIME GO TO THE STAIR. AND WE ALSO WANTED TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING RAILINGS AT THE STAIRS.SO WHAT WE DID WAS DO I HAVE A POINTER HERE? IS IT THIS ONE? OH, I DON'T THINK I CAN USE THE POINTER, BUT ABOVE THE LABEL OF THE EXISTING STAIR RIGHT THERE WHERE IT SAYS EXISTING STAIR NUMBER FOUR, WE'RE, WE'RE SHOWING YOU A FOUR INCH STEP. AND THEN THERE'S A RAILING THERE THAT WE ARE CUTTING POINT. OH, I CAN MAYBE. NO, NO. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO WORK.
OKAY. THANKS. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT NOW IN SOME OF OUR RENDERINGS. SO ARCHITECTURALLY SPEAKING, THIS WAS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST DESIGN CHALLENGES IS HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH A DESIGN THAT IS SLIGHTLY UNDERSTATED SO THAT YOU'RE NOT COMPETING AND MAKING A BIG GESTURE ON A BUILDING THAT IS SO SUBTLE? SO THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN GIVES A NOD TO THE EXISTING DESIGN BY MIRIAM MANLEY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME HAS TO DEFINE ITSELF AS BEING NEW AND DIFFERENT. SO HOW WE DID THAT WAS EXPRESS THE HORIZONTALITY OF THE THE THIN SLABS AND THE THIN ROOF LINE, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO LIKE WHAT YOU SEE IN THE EYEBROWS AND IN THE OPEN BALCONIES, MIMICKING THE, THE USE OF THE TRANSPARENT RAILINGS. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE COLORS AND MATERIALITY WERE ALSO IMPORTANT. SO WE WANTED TO GO WITH A FULL WHITE SCHEME TO BE ABLE TO BLEND IN NICELY WITH THE BUILDING. BUT THEN WHAT WE DID WAS WE ACCENTED THE BY THE USE OF THE YELLOW ON THE GLASS TO REFERENCE HOW THE YELLOW WAS USED IN THE EXISTING GLASS STEEL WINDOWS. AND THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT NIGHT. YOU CAN SEE THE PLAZA THERE IN THE CORNER, AND THEN THE YELLOW LIGHT IS JUST LIKE A VERY, VERY THIN, TRANSPARENT, TRANSLUCENT LIGHT THAT BRINGS ATTENTION TO THE CORNER BUT DOESN'T COMPETE. AND THEN THE OPENNESS, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S COMPLETELY OPEN AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE EXISTING BUILDING WAS, WHERE THE EXISTING STAIRS, AND THEN THE NEW INTERVENTION. DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MATERIALS? WELL, ACTUALLY JUST ADDING TO WHAT DAPHNE SAID, THE TRANSPARENCY IS THE MAIN CONCEPT HERE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU SEE THE EXISTING BUILDING AS YOU SEE THE THE END OF THE EXISTING STAIR IS COMPLETELY TRANSLUCENT. TO BE CLOSER. THEN THE TRANSPARENCY IS ACHIEVED BY JUST HAVING A CORRIDOR IN BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. YEAH. THE MATERIALITY AGAIN WITH BRINGING THE YELLOW GLASS, THE THE DOORS ARE GOING TO BE BLUE AS THE
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ORIGINALLY BLUE. THE THE NEW WINDOWS ARE GOING TO BE A WHOLE WINDOWS, ALL METAL WINDOWS WITH THE TRANSPARENT GLASS AND, AND YES, THE AS YOU MENTIONED, DAPHNE, THE WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE WHITE STUCCO. SO IT CREATES A DIALOG BETWEEN THE EXISTING BUILDING AND THE NEW.AND THERE YOU CAN SEE THE RAILING THAT IS EXISTING ON THE STAIR THAT WE BASICALLY ARE JUST CUTTING IN THE BACKSIDE FROM ONE IN THE FOREGROUND STAYS IN PLACE. AND THIS IS A VIEW AT NIGHT. THE VIEW FROM THE SIDE. AND JUST A CLOSE UP ON THE WINDOWS. AND THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. BOARD QUESTIONS, MISS ALVAREZ, MISS SPAIN. HAVE YOU DISCUSSED WITH THE UNIVERSITY THE NOT PUTTING REFLECTIVE GLASS ON THE WINDOWS AND. OKAY. YES, WE ARE VERY AWARE OF THAT. YES. AND PERSONALLY, AS AN ARCHITECT, I. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD MOVE EITHER. SO THE VERY LAST THING I DID IN THE LAST DAY THAT I WORKED FOR THE CITY, I FAILED THE INSPECTION OF THE WINDOWS ON THE ARCHITECTURE SCHOOL. AND THEN I LEFT THE INSPECTION AND I WENT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND TOLD HIM. AND THEN I RETIRED. ACTUALLY WE ARE WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR MECHANICAL ENGINEER, MAKING SURE THAT THE THE ENERGY CALCULATIONS IS BASED ON THE OVERALL BUILDING AND ONLY ON THE WINDOWS. THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE MORE TRANSPARENT GLASS. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. GARCIA. PONS QUESTION A COUPLE. THE WINDOWS ARE WHAT I DIDN'T SEE A SLIDE ABOUT THE THE WINDOWS SPECIFICALLY. DO YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON THE REPLACEMENT WINDOWS OF THE WHOLE BUILDING? YEAH. THE NEW WINDOWS ARE GOING TO BE HOPE WINDOWS ARE GOING TO BE OUT OF METAL WITH WITH GLASS, WITH A, WITH A LAMINATED GLASS, SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS IMPLEMENTED AT PENLAND AND THE BUILDING 48 AND 47, WHICH IS THE BRAND IS HOPE, RIGHT? SO SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT WE THAT WE'VE ALREADY USED ON THE OTHER BUILDING AT PENLAND. YEAH. AND THE SAME COLOR SCHEME AS THE SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE. THE FRAME IS GOING TO BE THE SAME FRAME, THE SAME PROFILE. BLUE LAGERS ARE YELLOW. EXACTLY. YEAH. YES, THEY WILL MATCH, BUT NO REFLECTIVE GLASS. REFLECTIVE GLASS. OKAY. THEN THE SECOND QUESTION. AND WHEN I SAW THE APPLICATION, I WAS THINKING ABOUT PLACES TO MAYBE PUT THE ELEVATOR BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE IT WAS TOO PROMINENT IN MY MIND. AND IDEALLY I WAS THINKING MAYBE TUCKING IT IN THE BACK ALONG THE STAIR CORNER, IN THE FRONT, ALONG THE STAIR CORNER, I CAN SEE WHY THE ROADWAY AND I DIDN'T SEE THE UTILITY LINE UNTIL YOU SHOWED ME. THAT'S GOING ON THE BACK SIDE, SO I UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S PLACED THERE. MY QUESTION IS, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, THE THE TWO TOUCHES OF COLOR, THE YELLOW GLASS AND THEN SORT OF THE ARE THEY BLUE SCORE LINES ARE THE SCORE LINES. THEY'RE NOT COLORED. IT'S REALLY HARD WHEN YOU'RE USING PHOTOSHOP TO MAKE A SCORE LINE. SO IT'S JUST A. WE JUST DREW IT ON THERE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BLACK. NO, IT'S JUST A SCORE LINE. MY QUESTION IS, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE STRAIGHT ON ONE, WHICH IS REALLY BEAUTIFUL? OH, OKAY. WELL, SORRY, I GOT TO LEARN HOW TO USE THIS. THIS ONE. NO, THE THE ONE THAT'S THIS ONE. THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS ONE. THE PERSPECTIVE HERE. THIS ONE. THAT WAS GOOD. NO, NO. DO THE GO BACK. SORRY. THIS ONE MORE.
THAT ONE. SO OKAY. THESE GUYS THE TRANSPARENCY IS WONDERFUL. I THINK THE ORIENTATION OF THE ELEVATOR IS MUCH BETTER. I THINK THE COMPACTNESS OF THE APPROACH IS REALLY EFFICIENT.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED INSTEAD OF NUMBER THREE BEING WHITE STUCCO, IF IT WERE JUST SOMETHING ELSE, CLAD, DARK SOMETHING, BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD NOT LOOK LIKE IT'S AN EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. YES WE DID. WE LOOKED AT CONCRETE. I PERSONALLY THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE A IT WAS MISMATCHED BECAUSE I LIKE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE BUILDING. WE DID LOOK AT STOWE AS A POSSIBLE ALTERNATE MATERIAL TO STUCCO, JUST SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO MAKE IT SO DIFFERENT THAT IT BECOMES TOO IMPORTANT, OR THERE'S SOMETHING SO NICE ABOUT THE SUBTLENESS OF THE STUCCO AND THE WHOLE DESIGN. I JUST, I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO LIKE, GIVE REVERENCE TO THE BUILDING, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YOU KNOW,
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AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS AND THE RESULT METAL TILE PANELS. WE LOOKED AT THAT TOO. YEAH. THERE'S SOME REALLY MODERN WAYS TO DO SOMETHING WHICH MATCHES THE ESTHETIC OF THE MODERN ARCHITECTURE THAT ISN'T REPEATING THE WHITE STUCCO, BECAUSE IT COULD BE INTERPRETED AS IT WAS ALWAYS THERE BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME. YEAH. I WOULD ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF DOING THE STOA. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT WE HAD WHEN WE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTS. WE TOLD THEM EITHER THE STUCCO OR THE STOA, AND THEY WERE OKAY WITH IT.YEAH, BECAUSE THE STOVE WILL LOOK LIKE A VERY SMOOTH FINISH. IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SANDED AT THE END. IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE A PRECAST PIECE, BUT STILL SYNTHETIC. EXACTLY.
DO YOU LIKE THAT? I THINK IT MIGHT BE BETTER. YOU HAVEN'T. I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE HERE KNOWS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. SO IF YOU HAVE A SLIDE, WHICH I DON'T THINK YOU DO BECAUSE NO, WE DON'T HAVE IT, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME FOR SMOOTHER. YEAH. VERY SMOOTH. IT'S A IT CAN HAVE ALMOST LIKE A PLASTER FEELING TO IT. YEAH. AND WE CAN DEFINITELY WE WOULD DEFINITELY AGREE TO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. NO THANK YOU. MISS ALVAREZ. OH, THANK YOU FOR THE THOROUGH PRESENTATION. I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GREAT STRATEGY. I HAVE A QUESTION THAT I GUESS NOT. PERHAPS NOT COMPLETELY RELEVANT, BUT SINCE I SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THE BUILDING, I NOTICED THE HOPES WINDOWS HAVE SOME DETERIORATION. THE ONES THAT WERE INSTALLED NOT LONG AGO. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A VERY PRICEY ITEM AND WE CAN REVIEW THAT ITEM WITH THE MANUFACTURER. FABRICATOR? WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PREVIOUS WINDOWS? MAYBE YOUR REFERENCE TO 4849, BECAUSE THE PENDULUM JUST WAS RENOVATED A YEAR AGO.
ARE YOU THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING IN PARTICULAR THAT I KNOW HAS SOME I HAVE NOT SEEN RUSTING? YEAH. WILL DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND DISCUSS THAT WITH THE MANUFACTURER.
YEAH. MR. SILVA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. IT'S I THINK IT'S A REALLY ELEGANT SOLUTION IN TERMS OF, OF WHAT CESAR WAS TALKING ABOUT, THAT THAT ELEVATOR TOWER FINISH. I'M PERSONALLY OKAY WITH THE STUCCO. I THINK IT DOES READ DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THESE BUILDINGS ARE CAPPED ALWAYS BY THAT STAIR TOWER. RIGHT. WHICH HAS THAT GROOVED SORT OF FINISH.
SO KIND OF LIKE A BRICK FINISH TO ME. TO ME, IT READS DIFFERENTLY THAN ALL THE REST OF THEM BECAUSE ALL THE REST OF THEM HAVE THAT, THAT GROOVE THICK WALL. BUT I WOULD, I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED EITHER TO HAVING KIND OF A DIFFERENT TEXTURE. THE I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR EFFORT ON THE, ON THE RAILINGS. IT'S A QUICK QUESTION ON THOSE. SO, SO THEY, THE MAIN ELEMENTS OF THE RAILING, YOU GOT TWO HORIZONTALS AND SORT OF SOME VERTICALS THAT ARE MIMICKING THE PATTERN OF THE ORIGINAL. RIGHT? YES. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE CABLES TO, TO REALLY DIFFERENTIATE IT. DO YOU WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE? HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THE DETAILING OF THOSE RAILINGS YET? ARE THEY GOING TO BE ROUND PIPE JUST LIKE THOSE SORT OF WELDED WITH THE THINGS SCREWED THROUGH? AND ARE THEY GOING TO BE WHITE OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE METALLIC? WHAT DO WE HAVE IT AS GRAY RIGHT NOW? AGAIN, THIS IS A DEFERRED MAINTENANCE PROJECT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING THE WHOLE BUILDING TO ADA COMPLIANCE, THE EXISTING RAILINGS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE WE'RE GOING TO INTEGRATE CABLES TO THE EXISTING RAILINGS.
THAT WAY YOU HAVE THE FOUR INCH TECHSPHERE. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT I WOULD PREFER TO KEEP THEM WITH THE THE ROUND, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THEY HAVE DONE ALREADY A CERTAIN RAILING IN OTHER PARTS OF THE BUILDINGS, I THINK JUST ADD A UNIFORMITY. WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE OPTIONS. TAKE TAKE A LOOK, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO RETROFIT. EXACTLY, THEN YES, THINK ABOUT DEPENDS ON WHATEVER WAS DONE. YEAH. WHICH THEY CONNECT THE CONNECT AT ONE POINT. YEAH. BUT BUT I LOVE THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MISS ROLANDO. ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE STUCCO. AND I REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S. REALLY TASTEFUL. THANK YOU. THANKS. AND VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THE ORIGINAL BUILDING. SO IF YOU DO GO WITH THE STONE. I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL. IT CAN'T BE.
IT CAN'T GIVE THE IMPRESSION OF BEING MONUMENTAL OR IMPORTANT. I AGREED, AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THE STUCCO. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS, MISS SHIELD. ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. I LIKE THE KEEPING WITH THE COLOR SCHEME AND THE. I LIKE THE THIN CEILING AND DIVIDERS THAT MIMIC THE EYEBROW AND IT'S I A MINIMALISTIC. YOU MADE IT LOOK
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VERY EASY, BUT YEAH, I LIKE IT. THANK YOU. I'D SAY IT'S A GOOD SOLUTION. THANK YOU. THANKS. I THINK WE ALL LIKE IT. AND YEAH, I THINK THAT THE THE STUCCO IS GOOD TOO. AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE GOT THERE'S THE BRICK PATTERN WHICH GOES ON THERE. SO I MEAN, IF IT'S, IF IT'S DIFFERENTIATED, IT PROBABLY SHOULD PICK UP SOMETHING MORE LIKE THAT AND WHICH IT COULD DO IN THE STUCCO AS WELL, JUST JUST TO LOOK A LITTLE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY IT IS. I MEAN, YOU'VE OFFSET IT NICELY AND IT'S IT'S A VERY GOOD SOLUTION. THANK YOU. YEAH. BY THE WAY, THE ORIGINAL BUILDING IS REALLY GOOD. IT'S SO THANK YOU FOR SUCH GOOD WORK. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BOARD. OKAY. THEN WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS PART OF THE MEETING TO CONCLUSION. AND WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC. IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE OR HERE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? WE HAVE NONE. SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THAT. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE BOARD NOW. BOARD QUESTIONS. DISCUSSION. MOTION. MISS.ROLANDO. LET ME PULL UP THE REPORT. SORRY. OKAY. LET ME JUST ASK, DID YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE CONDITIONS NOTED BY STAFF AND THE STAFF REPORT? NO. OKAY, THEN I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE DESIGN PROPOSAL FOR THE ADDITIONS TO THE RESIDENCE AND SITE WORK ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT. 1233 DICKENSON DRIVE, A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK. AND TO APPROVE. WITH THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND ISSUANCE OF A SPECIAL CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE REASONS SET FORTH IN THE STAFF REPORT AND AS NOTED IN THE COMMENTS BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. THANK YOU, MISS ROLANDO. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MISS ROLANDO TO HAVE A SECOND FROM THE BOARD. I'LL SECOND IT, MISS SPAIN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SHOULDN'T SAY RESIDENTS. THERE'S A TYPO THERE. YEAH, IT'S IN THE MOTION. SHOULD WE SAY CLASSROOM FACILITY OR EDUCATIONAL FACILITY? BUILDING TO THE BUILDING. BUILDING, BUILDING.
OKAY. THAT'S MY AMENDMENT. MY FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION. I ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT.
OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AMENDMENT ACCEPTED BY EVERYBODY. WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. GARCIA PONCE? YES, MR. SILVA? YES, MISS SHIELDS. YES. MISS ALVAREZ. YES. OKAY. MISS ROLANDO. YES, MISS SPAIN, MISS SPAIN. YES. AND MR. MAXWELL. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. AND GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE
[CASE FILE LHD 2025-011 and COA (SP) 2025-027: Consideration of the local historic designation of the property at 2509 Indian Mound Trail, legally described as Lot 3, Block 3, Coral Gables Section “D,” according to the Plat thereof, as recorded in Plat Book 25, at Page 74, of the Public Records of Miami-Dade County, Florida. The applicant is also requesting to unify two adjacent single-family properties into one parcel and the issuance of an Accelerated Special Certificate of Appropriateness and design approval to join single-family residences to create one single-family residence, and design approval for additions and alterations to the residence and sitework. Variances have also been requested from Article 2, Section 2-101 D (6) for ground area coverage, and Article 2 Section 2-101 D (4) for the side and rear setback, Article 6.]
RELOCATED MOTION AND WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH COME UP NOW WITH CASE FILE L D H 2020 5-011 AND C O S P 20 2527. CONSIDERATION OF LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY AT 2509 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS LOT THREE, BLOCK THREE CORAL GABRIEL, SECTION D RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 25, PAGE 74, MIAMI DADE. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING TO UNIFY TWO ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES INTO ONE PARCEL AND THE ISSUANCE OF AN ACCELERATED SPECIAL CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND DESIGN APPROVAL TO JOIN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES TO CREATE ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND DESIGN APPROVAL FOR ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS TO THE RESIDENCE AND SITE WORK VARIANTS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED FROM ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 2-1016 FOR GROUND AREA COVERAGE AND ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 2101 D4 FOR THE SIDE AND REAR SETBACK. ARTICLE SIX. DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION PLEASE? YES, KHGI-TV WILL BE READY FOR THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION PRESENTATION, PLEASE. AND IF WE COULD HAVE MISS GWEN INTRODUCE HERSELF TO. THE PROPERTY AT 2509. INDIAN MOUND TRAIL IS BEFORE YOU FOR[01:00:01]
CONSIDERATION FOR DESIGNATION AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK. THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED BY THE OWNER. MEDITERRANEAN TRANSITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOME WAS DESIGNED BY WILLIAM MARION IN 1935. AS PER ARTICLE EIGHT, SECTION EIGHT DASH 103 OF THE CORAL GABLES ZONING CODE.CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION OF HISTORIC LANDMARKS. A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK MUST HAVE SIGNIFICANT CHARACTER, INTEREST OR VALUE AS PART OF THE HISTORICAL, CULTURAL, ARCHEOLOGICAL, ESTHETIC OR ARCHITECTURAL HERITAGE OF THE CITY, STATE OR NATION. FOR DESIGNATION, A PROPERTY MUST MEET ONE OF THE CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE CODE. 2509 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL IS ELIGIBLE AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK BASED ON THREE CRITERIA HISTORICAL CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE CRITERIA FOR. IT EXEMPLIFIES THE HISTORICAL, CULTURAL, POLITICAL, ECONOMIC OR SOCIAL TRENDS OF THE COMMUNITY. ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE CRITERIA ONE IT PORTRAYS THE ENVIRONMENT IN AN ERA OF HISTORY CHARACTERIZED BY ONE OR MORE DISTINCTIVE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND CRITERIA. TWO, IT EMBODIES THOSE DISTINGUISHING CHARACTERISTICS OF AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OR PERIOD OR METHOD OF CONSTRUCTION. 2509 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL IS LOCATED NEAR SAINT THERESA'S CATHOLIC SCHOOL AT THE JUNCTION OF INDIAN MOUND IN ANDALUSIA AVENUE IN CORAL GABLES. SECTION D THE PROPERTY, APPROXIMATELY 6230FT■!S, IS AN IRREGULARLY SHAPED LOT AND HAS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH AN ATTACHED GARAGE. THE HOME RETAINS ITS INTEGRITY OF ITS ORIGINAL STYLE AND CHARACTER. CORAL GABLES DEVELOPMENTAL HISTORY IS DIVIDED INTO THREE MAJOR HISTORICAL PERIODS. GEORGE MERRICK FOUNDED IT IN THE EARLY 1920S, BASED ON HIS VISION FOR A FULLY CONCEIVED, MEDITERRANEAN INSPIRED CITY. IT IS NOW CONSIDERED ONE OF THE FIRST MODERN PLANNED COMMUNITIES IN THE UNITED STATES. THE ARCHITECTURE CONSTRUCTED DURING THIS INITIAL PERIOD COMBINED ELEMENTS COMMONLY USED IN SPANISH MOORS AND ITALIAN ARCHITECTURE AND HAS COME TO BE KNOWN AS THE MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE.
DURING THE 1920S, STRUCTURES AND AMENITIES WERE BUILT ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY IN THE STYLE. IN THE LATE 1920S. THE DIRE DOWNTURN IN THE ECONOMY IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE 1926 HURRICANE HAD A DRASTIC IMPACT ON NEW CONSTRUCTION, AND DESPITE VALIANT EFFORTS, MERRICK'S GRAND PLANS FOR COMPLETING HIS MEDITERRANEAN INSPIRED CITY ENDED DURING THE CORAL GABLES SECOND DEVELOPMENTAL PERIOD. CONSTRUCTION WAS SPARSE DURING THESE 17 YEARS. THERE WERE FEWER THAN 1000 NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BUILT IN THE CITY. IT WAS A PERIOD WHERE MERRICK'S VISION FOR A COHESIVELY DESIGNED COMMUNITY WAS STILL EMBRACED, AND MEDITERRANEAN INSPIRED ARCHITECTURE SHIFTED TO INCLUDE NEW MODERN TRENDS. 2509 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL WAS BUILT DURING THE SECOND HISTORICAL PHASE, WHEN FEW HOMES WERE BUILT AND CORAL GABLES BEGAN TO EMBRACE CONTEMPORARY STYLES THAT FOLLOWED NATIONAL TRENDS. IN THE SIX YEARS FROM 1930 TO 1935, THERE WERE FEWER THAN 90 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BUILT IN CORAL GABLES. OVER HALF OF THEM WERE BUILT IN 1935. AS RELIEF EXPANDED UNDER NEW DEAL ADMINISTRATION IN THE 1930S, AS CONSTRUCTION TRIED TO REGAIN ITS FOOTING, IT SHIFTED AWAY FROM THE ELABORATE AND EMBELLISHED MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE OF THE 1920S TOWARDS SIMPLER AND MORE MODERN DESIGNS THAT REFLECTED THE NEW ESTHETIC AND PRIORITIES OF SOCIETY. HOME DESIGN BEGAN IN A LIMITED MANNER TO EMPLOY ASPECTS OF CONTEMPORARY STYLES THAT FAVORED MORE STREAMLINED CONSTRUCTION. IN SOUTH FLORIDA, ART DECO AND ART MODERNE WERE LARGELY IN FASHION IN CORAL GABLES, WHOSE EARLY IDENTITY WAS SO STRONGLY TIED TO THE MEDITERRANEAN THEME. MOST ARCHITECTS SOUGHT TO ACKNOWLEDGE CORAL GABLES ROOTS AND MERRICK'S DESIRE FOR COHESIVELY DESIGNED COMMUNITY. RATHER THAN FULLY EMBRACING THE MODERNISTIC STYLES PREVAILING IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, CORAL GABLES MOVED TO A STYLE WHICH BLENDED ELEMENTS OF THE MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL WITH THEM TO MAINTAIN AN OVERALL SEMBLANCE OF COHESION. 2509 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL WAS DESIGNED IN APRIL 1935 AND IS AMONGST THE EARLIEST HOMES IN CORAL GABLES. DESIGNED IN THIS BLENDED STYLE. TWO YEARS LATER, IN FEBRUARY 1937, THE CITY OF CORAL GABLES CODIFIED THIS BLENDED APPROACH BY PASSING ZONING ORDINANCE 471 IN SECTION 12 A, IT STATES ALL BUILDINGS SHALL BE OF SPANISH, VENETIAN, ITALIAN OR OTHER MEDITERRANEAN OR SIMILAR TYPE ARCHITECTURE. IT ALLOWED FOR EXCEPTIONS.
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HOWEVER, THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE CITY, NEW HOMES WERE TO MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF MERRICK'S MEDITERRANEAN INSPIRED VISION. THE DIRECTION MANY ARCHITECTS TOOK WAS THE HYBRID THAT IS NOW KNOWN AS THE MEDITERRANEAN TRANSITIONAL STYLE. THE MEDITERRANEAN TRANSITIONAL STYLE WAS A STAPLE DURING CORAL GABLES SECOND DEVELOPMENTAL PERIOD. HOWEVER, AFTER THE WAR, AS CONSTRUCTION RAMPED UP AGAIN, A NEW GENERATION OF HOMEOWNERS ENTERED THE CITY. ZONING ORDINANCE 471 WAS HOTLY DEBATED. IN 1945, THE CITY HELD PUBLIC MEETINGS TO HEAR THE CITIZEN'S WISHES, AND IT WAS UPHELD. HOWEVER, THIS WAS NOT THE FINAL WORD ON THE SUBJECT. A YEAR LATER, THE CITY COMMISSION CALLED FOR A SPECIAL MEETING TO DISCUSS THE MATTER OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLES AND INVITED ALL REGISTERED ARCHITECTS IN THE CITY TO PARTICIPATE. AS DISCUSSED IN THE DESIGNATION REPORT, THERE WAS A RANGE OF OPINIONS AND NOT A CLEAR CONSENSUS. IN THE END, THE COMMISSION UPHELD THE ZONING ORDINANCE BUT LEFT THE FINAL DESIGN APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTS, WHO LEANED TOWARDS INTRODUCING NEW STYLES. HENCE, THE MEDITERRANEAN TRANSITIONAL ARCHITECTURE WAS ONLY PRODUCED FOR A BRIEF PERIOD BEFORE THE NEW STYLISTIC TRENDS TOOK OVER. ITS PRIMARY CHARACTERISTICS ARE SHOWN HERE AND DISCUSSED FURTHER IN THE DESIGNATION REPORT. THE MEDITERRANEAN TRANSITIONAL STYLE IS PIVOTAL LINK BETWEEN THE TWO HISTORIC BUILDING BOOM ERAS OF THE CITY, AND REPRESENTS A FINAL EFFORT TO HARMONIZE WITH AND HONOR MERRICK'S MEDITERRANEAN INSPIRED FOUNDING VISION. THE HISTORICAL PERIOD OF THE STYLE FURTHER ADDS TO ITS LIMITED NATURE, AS THESE WERE DEPRESSION AND WARTIME YEARS, WHICH SAW SPARSE NEW CONSTRUCTION. THERE WERE ONLY A FEW HUNDRED HOMES PURPOSELY DESIGNED IN THE STYLE, AND THEY ARE AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY.2509 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL WAS ONE OF THE FIRST DESIGNED IN THIS STYLE IN CORAL GABLES. INDIAN MOUND TRAIL, LOCATED IN SECTION D, WAS LAID OUT IN 1922 AS A SMALL WINDING ROAD CONNECTING CORAL WAY AND ANASTASIA AVENUE. ON ITS SOUTHERN END. TWO BLOCKS WERE SET ASIDE FOR SAINT JOSEPH'S ACADEMY, WHICH ARE NOW THE GROUNDS OF THE SAINT THERESA CATHOLIC SCHOOL AND THE CHURCH OF THE LITTLE FLOWER ALONG THE WINDING NORTHERN SECTION BETWEEN CORAL WAY AND MADRID STREETS LASTS FOR. APPROXIMATELY A DOZEN HOMES WERE PLANNED. HOWEVER, DURING THE 1920S, ONLY TWO MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE HOMES WERE BUILT, ONE AT EACH END, AND THE REMAINDER OF THE STREET REMAINED A TREE LINED SCENIC CUT THROUGH TRAIL, AS SEEN IN THE PHOTO HERE. INDIAN MOUND TRAIL WAS PRIMARILY DEVELOPED IN THE LATE 1930S WHEN BUILDING WAS SCARCE. EIGHT HOMES WERE BUILT ALONG THIS WINDY STRETCH. BETWEEN 1935 AND 1939, AND IT REMAINS A SMALL, DENSE COLLECTION OF PIVOTAL AND TRANSITIONAL HOMES BUILT AT THIS TIME. 2509 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL, ALONG WITH 2501 AND 2505, WERE THE FIRST OF THIS COLLECTION. THEY WERE BUILT IN 1935. SITUATED ALONG THE WINDING INDIAN MOUND TRAIL. THE HOME AT 2509 WAS DESIGNED IN THE MEDITERRANEAN TRANSITIONAL STYLE, WITH STRONG INFLUENCES FROM THE ARTISTIC ART MODERNE. IT RETAINS A SENSE OF RECESSED AND PROJECTING BAYS OF THE MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE, BUT AN OVERALL SIMPLER FORM, WITH A FOCUS ON HORIZONTALITY AND GEOMETRIC FORMS IN THE MODERNISTIC FASHION. WHILE THE ROOF IS CLAD IN BARREL TILE OF THE MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE, THE ROOFS ARE LOW PITCHED UNDER A SINGULAR RIDGE, WHICH IS A DISTINCT DEPARTURE FROM THE USE OF SEPARATE ROOFS OF VARYING TYPES AND HEIGHTS THAT WAS COMMON IN THE MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL. THE SMOOTHER STUCCO OF THE ART MODERNE STYLE ALSO ACCENTS THE HOME'S GEOMETRIC EMPHASIS AND MODERNISTIC SCULPTURAL QUALITIES. THE FRONT FACADE IS BALANCED AT ITS END BY THE GEOMETRIC ELEMENTS OF THE PROTRUDING SQUARE OF THE GARAGE BAY AND THE CYLINDRICAL SOLARIUM. THE SCULPTURAL ELEMENTS OF THE BLOCKY AND STEPPED CHIMNEY AND THE CURVED ENTRY DOMINATE ITS STREET PRESENCE. THE FENESTRATION OF THE HOME IS DEEPLY RECESSED, GIVING THE IMPRESSION OF BEING CARVED OUT. BUT RATHER THAN THE MODERN CLEAR VIEW WINDOWS, THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS WERE STILL CASEMENTS WITH RAISED ONES. IN KEEPING WITH THE MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE. IN THE MODERNISTIC FASHION, EMBELLISHMENT IS MINIMAL. IT INCLUDES COVE EAVES, GEOMETRIC PATTERN MASONRY, GROUND VENTS, EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS AND ORIGINALLY HAD ROUND WINDOWS ON THE GARAGE DOORS AND FLORAL MOTIFS. METAL SCREEN DOORS. 2509 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL IS A MODEST TWO BEDROOM HOME WHOSE SIMPLICITY WAS A RESPONSE TO THE ECONOMIC HARDSHIPS OF THE DEPRESSION AND THE BURGEONING MODERN ESTHETIC OF SUBTLE ORNAMENTATION AND STREAMLINED HOMES. AS WAS TYPICAL, IT IS
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ONE STORY WITH A LOW PITCHED ROOF, PROMINENT EXTERIOR CHIMNEY AND EFFICIENT FLOOR PLAN, AND INCLUDES THE THEN EMERGING TREND OF ATTACHED GARAGES. IT IS BUILT OF MASONRY BLOCK OVER A CRAWL SPACE IN THE MODERNISTIC FASHION IS CLAD IN A VERY LIGHTLY TEXTURED STUCCO.THE PLAN IS ESSENTIALLY C SHAPED UNDER LOW PITCHED HIPPED ROOFS AND A SEMI-CIRCULAR SOLARIUM AT THE NORTHWESTERN CORNER. THE ORIGINAL ROOF WAS A TWO PIECE BARREL TILE, WHICH WAS A CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURE OF MERRICK'S MEDITERRANEAN STYLE HOMES. THE CURRENT STYLE BARREL TILE WAS INSTALLED IN 1993. IN THE MODERNISTIC FASHION. THE WINDOWS ARE DEEPLY RECESSED WITHOUT SILLS, AND THE HOME RETAINS A FAIR NUMBER OF ITS ORIGINAL STEEL CASEMENT WINDOWS. ALTERATIONS TO THE HOME ARE MINIMAL, AND THERE ARE VERY FEW PERMITS ON FILE FOR THIS PROPERTY. THE ONLY ADDITIONS TO THE HOME OCCURRED IN 1941. THEY WERE SMALL WITH LITTLE HISTORICAL IMPACT ON THE ORIGINAL HOME. THE FIRST WAS AN EIGHT FOOT TWO INCH EASTERN EXTENSION OF THE REAR WALL TO INCORPORATE A BATHROOM AT THE LOCATION OF THE ORANGE ARROW. THE SECOND WAS A THREE FOOT, SIX INCH EXTENSION OF THE SIDE SCREEN PORCH SHOWN AT THE RED ARROW. THIS ADDITION IS CLEAR BY THE CHANGE OF FLOOR TILE AND ITS ROOF EXTENSION, AS SEEN HERE. IN THE MODERNISTIC FASHION, THE STREET VIEW OF THE HOME IS DISTINCTLY HORIZONTAL, WITH FOUR MAJOR GEOMETRIC AND SCULPTURAL ELEMENTS. THE OVERALL IMPRESSION IS A STREAMLINED AND CLEAN WITH FEW DECORATIVE TOUCHES. THE LOW PITCHED ROOFS VISUALLY IMPART A HORIZONTALITY TO THE HOME. IN THE EAVE IS A COVE MOLDING FEATURE. THE SOFTENING OF THE WALL TO THE ROOF CONNECTION IS A DETAIL OFTEN FAVORED BY MIRIAM TO SUPPORT THE SCULPTURAL QUALITY OF THE DESIGN. WHILE THE ROOF IS CLAD IN BARREL TILE OF THE MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE ALONG THE FRONT, IT IS LOW PITCHED UNDER A SINGLE RIDGE. IN THE 1920S, MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE HOMES. A PROTRUDING FRONT PORCH BAY WAS A CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURE. IN THIS HOME. THERE WAS A SIMILAR PROTRUDING BAY, BUT IT CONTAINS AN ATTACHED GARAGE. IN MERRICK'S 1920S, THE GARAGES WERE DETACHED AND AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. BY THE MID 1930S, AUTOMOBILE OWNERSHIP WAS MORE COMMON THAN THE EARLY 1920S, AND CITING IT AS A PROTRUDING BAY GAVE AUTOMOBILE OWNERSHIP A HIGHER PRIDE OF PLACE. ADDITIONALLY, MOVING THE GARAGE TO BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE HOME, ALIGNED WITH THE TREND OF DESIGNING EFFICIENT SMALL HOMES. THE GARAGE BAY READS AS A SIMPLE SQUARE FEATURE. AS A PROTRUDING BAY, IT VISUALLY BALANCES THE LARGE CYLINDRICAL SOLARIUM FEATURED AT THE OTHER END OF THE FACADE. AS SEEN HERE, THE ORIGINAL CARRIAGE DOORS FEATURED SIMPLE CIRCULAR WINDOWS, FURTHER EMPHASIZING ITS GEOMETRIC NATURE. THE GARAGE DOORS WERE REPLACED IN 1968. ADJACENT TO THE GARAGE IS THE RECEDING FRONT ENTRY FEATURE. WALLS CURVED BACK TO MEET THE DOOR, GIVING A SCULPTURAL IMPRESSION THAT THE WALLS WERE CARVED OUT TO REVEAL THE FRONT DOOR. THE CURVES OF THIS FEATURE REINFORCE THE CURVE OF THE SOLARIUM. THE CURVE OF THE ENTRY FEATURES APPEARS TO FLOW ORGANICALLY INTO THE LARGE ADJACENT CHIMNEY. PROMINENT CHIMNEYS WERE CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES OF THE MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE, AND WERE USUALLY EVOCATIVE OF SPANISH BELFREY OR AN ITALIAN INSPIRED TOWER. MIRIAM CHOSE TO KEEP THE CHIMNEY AS A PROMINENT FEATURE IN THIS MEDITERRANEAN TRANSITIONAL HOME, BUT DESIGNED IT AS A MODERNISTIC SCULPTURAL ELEMENT. THE SEMI-ENGAGED CHIMNEY IS LARGE AND BLOCKY, AGAIN EVOKING GEOMETRY RATHER THAN EMBELLISHMENT. THE RECTANGULAR BLOCK RISES THROUGH THE ROOF A FEW FEET, WITH THE MODERNISTIC ART DECO INSPIRED SHOULDER CHIMNEY TOP, WHILE THE EAST SIDE OF THE CHIMNEY IS ON THE SAME PLANE OF THE FRONT FACADE. THE WEST SIDE PROJECTS FROM THE PLAIN THIS SIDE OF THE CHIMNEY STACKS STEPS DOWN. ITS PROJECTION GIVES THE IMPRESSION THAT THE ADJACENT CYLINDRICAL FORM OF SOLARIUM WAS CARVED BACK FROM THE PLAIN OF THE CHIMNEY. THE STEPPED ELEMENT VISUALLY DRAWS ATTENTION TO THE ADJACENT CYLINDRICAL SOLARIUM WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY PROVIDING A BALANCE FOR IT. THE OVERALL GEOMETRY, SIZE AND SOLIDITY OF THE CHIMNEY VISUALLY GROUNDS THE HOME AND AIDS THE HORIZONTAL EMPHASIS OF THE DESIGN. WHEN FIRST PLACED ON THE MARKET. AS HIGHLIGHTED, THE CURVED SOLARIUM. IT IS A HALLMARK FEATURE OF THE HOME.
TWO CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES OF A MODERNISTIC ART MODERNE ARE CYLINDRICAL FORMS AND LONG
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HORIZONTAL WINDOW BANDS. MIRIAM USED THESE ELEMENTS FOR A DOMINANT SOLARIUM ELEMENT.CURRENTLY, IT IS LARGELY OBSCURED BY VEGETATION. THE 1968 HISTORIC PHOTO HERE SHOWS THE FULL IMPACT OF THIS MODERNISTIC ELEMENT. THE SEMI-CIRCULAR SOLARIUM FEATURE PROTRUDES FROM THE WESTERN END OF THE FRONT FACADE. WRAPPING AROUND THE FEATURE IS A CONTINUOUS BAND OF DEEPLY INSET WINDOWS, PROVIDING ANOTHER STRONG HORIZONTAL ELEMENT TO THE FACADE. IN THE MODERNISTIC FASHION, THERE IS NO SILL, AND THE LARGE CURVED RECTANGULAR OPENING APPEARS TO BE CUT OUT FROM THE HALF CYLINDER MASS. THESE WINDOWS WERE REPLACED AT LEAST TWICE BASED ON HISTORIC PHOTOS. THEY WERE REPLACED BETWEEN 1968 AND 1991. THE SIDE FACADE BEHIND THE SOLARIUM REMAINS LARGELY INTACT TO MARIAM'S DESIGN. THESE WINDOWS, MUCH LIKE THOSE ON OTHER SECONDARY FACADES, ARE RECESSED WITH NO SILLS. IN THE MODERNISTIC FASHION, HOWEVER, THEIR SIZE AND PROPORTION AND PLACEMENT ARE IN LINE WITH MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE HOMES. LIKEWISE, THE USE OF CASEMENTS RATHER THAN CLEAR VIEW WINDOWS ALSO ALIGNS WITH THE MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE. MODERNISTIC NOD IS THE USE OF STEEL CASEMENTS RATHER THAN WOOD. THIS FACADE RETAINS ITS ORIGINAL STEEL CASEMENT WINDOWS DUE TO THE VEGETATION AND LOT RESTRICTIONS. ONLY A PORTION OF THE FACADE COULD BE PHOTOGRAPHED. A CURRENT ELEVATION DRAWING IS PROVIDED FOR REFERENCE. THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOME IS THE EAST FACING C PLAN. TUCKED IN THE CROOK OF THE C IS A COVERED PATIO PORCH.
INITIAL SALES AD STATE THAT THE PORCH WAS PURPOSELY PLACED ON THE EAST SIDE AND CONFIGURED TO ALLOW SUNLIGHT INTO ALL ROOMS. THE EFFICIENT PLACEMENT AND BANDING OF THE OPENINGS ALIGN WITH MODERNISTIC PRINCIPLES. AS STATED, THIS PORCH WAS WIDENED SLIGHTLY IN 1941. SIMPLE CURVED RAFTER TAILS ARE FOUND ON THE PORCH EAVES. THE RAFTER TAILS ARE MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE ELEMENT. THE REPORT REMAINS IN ITS 1941 SCREEN CONFIGURATION. THE REMAINDER OF THE FACADE REFLECTS ITS 1935 DESIGN AND RETAINS ITS ORIGINAL STEEL CASEMENT WINDOWS. AS MENTIONED ON THE REAR FACADE, THERE WAS A SMALL BATHROOM ADDED IN 1941. IT IS IN THE CENTER OF THE FACADE. SINCE THE 1941 ADDITIONS, ALTERATIONS TO THIS FACADE HAVE BEEN MINIMAL AND REVERSIBLE. ON THIS FACADE IS ONE OF THE REMAINING CAST MASONRY VENTS. IN KEEPING WITH MODERNISTIC ESTHETIC, THE DECORATIVE TOUCHES ARE MINIMAL. ITS GEOMETRIC DESIGN IS ONE OF THE FEW ORNAMENTAL ELEMENTS OF THE HOME. IN CONCLUSION, CONSTRUCTED IN 1935, THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AT 2509 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL WAS AMONGST THE FIRST HOMES BUILT DURING THE NEW DEAL ERA. BETWEEN 1930 AND 1935, THERE WERE FEWER THAN 90 HOMES PERMITTED IN CORAL GABLES AS CONSTRUCTION TRIED TO REGAIN ITS FOOTING IN THE 1930S, IT SHIFTED AWAY FROM THE ELABORATE MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL STYLE OF THE 20S TOWARDS SIMPLER AND MORE MODERN DESIGNS THAT REFLECTED THE NEW ESTHETIC AND PRIORITIES IN SOCIETY. IN DOING SO, CORAL GABLES ENTERED A NEW ARCHITECTURAL ERA. THE HOME, AT 2509 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL, HELPED TO LAUNCH THIS NEW CHAPTER IN CORAL GABLES ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY. 2509 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL IS ONE OF THE EARLIEST REPRESENTATIONS OF THE MEDITERRANEAN TRANSITIONAL STYLE IN THE CITY. IT WAS ONE OF THREE HOMES DESIGNED IN THE STYLE BY ARCHITECT WILLIAM MERRIAM FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY. IN THE SPRING OF 1935. IN THIS MEDITERRANEAN TRANSITIONAL STYLE HOME, MIRIAM THOUGHTFULLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE CITY'S MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL FOUNDATION WHILE EMBRACING MODERNISTIC ESTHETICS IN A MANNER THAT HARMONIZES WITH MERRICK'S 1920S PLAN. CITY 2509 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL RETAINS ITS HISTORIC INTEGRITY. IT IS PART OF A COLLECTION OF QUALITY RESIDENCES THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE HISTORIC FABRIC OF THE CITY AND ITS SENSE OF PLACE OVER TIME, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF 2509 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL, BASED ON ITS HISTORICAL, CULTURAL AND ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE. PRESENTATION. ELIZABETH, COULD YOU COME UP ON THE SCREEN JUST TO. WELL, IT WAS TO INTRODUCE. BUT TO EXIT THE LANDMARK REPORT. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES, WE HEAR YOU. I CAN'T GET THE AUDIO TO LET ME COME UP. ELIZABETH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION
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COORDINATOR AND THIS PRESENTATION WAS A SUMMARY OF THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION REPORT PREPARED BY STAFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. YES. MR. SILVA, I JUST HAD A BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT THIS, I DID HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION. SO THIS WAS A VERY THOROUGH REPORT. I'M VERY CLEAR. IF WE WERE WE ARE DESIGNATING THIS OR WE ARE LOOKING AT DESIGNATION FOR THIS. 2509 PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY. RIGHT. THERE'S OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY THAT ARE SEPARATE FROM THIS. RIGHT? SO PROCEDURALLY, RIGHT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING IN A SUBSEQUENT ITEM, RIGHT, TO MERGE THESE TWO PROPERTIES AND ASKING FOR A SPECIAL CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. ASSUMING WE DESIGNATE THIS HOUSE, RIGHT. AS FAR AS I COULD TELL, THE NEIGHBORING HOUSE IS NOT DESIGNATED, AM I CORRECT? NO, IT'S NOT DESIGNATED. SO JUST PROCEDURALLY A QUESTION, RIGHT? IF WE DESIGNATE THIS HOUSE AND THE PARCELS GET UNITED, THAT THAT MEANS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS NOW DESIGNATED, CORRECT? YES. IS THERE IS THERE ANYTHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THE WAY WE ARE DOING THIS? BECAUSE NORMALLY WHEN WE DESIGNATE A PROPERTY, IT'S WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, RIGHT? AND WE'RE DESIGNATING THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. IN THIS CASE, WE'RE LOOKING AT HALF A PROPERTY. AND THEN MAGICALLY THE DESIGNATION EXTENDS, RIGHT. IT'S JUST A QUESTION PROCEDURALLY HOW THAT WORKS. IS THAT OKAY? IS THAT. YES. THAT'S A WEIRD ONE. I MEAN, IT'S JUST A STRANGE DESIGNATION WOULD APPLY TO THE ENTIRE SITE. SO WITHIN THIS APPLICATION, YOU ARE DESIGNATING THE CURRENT SITE AT 2509, BUT YOU ARE ALSO AGREEING TO EXPAND THAT SITE INTO THE INTO ONE SITE WITH THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, WE ON THE NEXT VOTE AND THE NEXT VOTE. SO THIS. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IN THE SAME. BUT IT'S IT'S THE APPLICATION IS THE LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK. THERE'S THREE VOTES. AND THEN YOU WOULD APPROVE OR DENY YOU APPROVE OR DENY THE DESIGNATION. AND THEN YOU'D MOVE FORWARD TO THE COA. IS THAT THE ORDER? YES. YOU WOULD NEED TO DESIGNATE IT TO REVIEW THE COA. ALL RIGHT, I HAVE. IF NOT, YOU WOULDN'T REVIEW A COA. HOW? WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE OTHER HOUSE? WHEN WAS IT BUILT? AROUND THE SAME TIME PERIOD. THAT'S WHAT WAS STATED IN THE REPORT TODAY THERE'S A SERIES OF HOUSES ON 25 ON INDIAN MOUND TRAIL THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED AROUND THE SAME TIME. SO THE OTHER THE SECOND HOUSE, WHICH BECOMES HALF OF THE NEW HOUSE, THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE. OR IS THAT ALSO GOING TO BE PART OF THE DESIGNATED SITE? SO SO THE DESIGNATION WILL FALL TO THAT HOUSE AS WELL, RIGHT? YES. I'M GOING WITH THE PARCEL. BUT THE VOTE TODAY, RIGHT NOW IS THAT ONE HOUSE ON THAT ONE SITE. YES. EVERYTHING ELSE IS LATER. YES. OKAY. OKAY.THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. CHAIR, IF I MIGHT, IF I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, MARIO GARCIA. SARAH, THE OFFICE IS AT 600 BRICKELL AVENUE, REPRESENTING VIVIAN SANCHEZ AND CHRISTINE MUGRIDGE, BOTH OF WHICH ARE WITH ME TODAY. OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY. THROUGH THEIR TRUST, WE HAVE COME FORWARD WITH A PROPOSED DESIGNATION. WE'VE ALSO COME FORWARD WITH A PROPOSED SPECIAL CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, BOTH ITEMS ARE IMPORTANT TO US. SO WHILE I KNOW THERE WOULD BE A SEPARATE VOTE ON EACH ITEM, I WOULD ASK THAT THE DISCUSSION BE SORT OF CONTEMPORANEOUS ON THE TWO ITEMS BECAUSE FOR US, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT KNOWING WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THE SPECIAL CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S APPROPRIATE NOW, PERHAPS FOR STAFF TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION ON THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, AND THEN WE CAN COMBINE OUR COMMENTS ON BOTH. NO, WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD WITH THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT NOW, MARIO, IF THAT'S OKAY. I'M SORRY. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE JUST THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION VOTE. YEAH. TYPICALLY THE VOTES ARE SEPARATE. THAT'S HOW WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST. RIGHT. BUT COULD THERE BE DISCUSSION ON BOTH ITEMS AT THE SAME TIME? IT'S UP TO US. I THINK IF THEY WEREN'T GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGNATION, THERE WOULD BE NO REASON TO REVIEW THE COA. SO THAT'S WHY WE REVIEW IT ONE AT A TIME. SO IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO AHEAD. AND IF WE COULD BE AFFORDED TIME THOUGH TO SPEAK ON BOTH ITEMS, WE WE'D APPRECIATE IT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY KIND OF PRESENTATION ON THAT OR ANYTHING? IS THERE SOME DISCUSSION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE WHILE YOU'RE HERE? WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. IT REALLY IS MORE ON THE SPECIAL CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION, OF COURSE, IS, IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE PUT FORWARD. BUT WE'VE PUT FORWARD, OF COURSE, WITH CERTAIN THOUGHTS IN MIND AS TO WHAT WE
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CAN DO WITH THE PROPERTY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THEN LET US DEAL WITH THAT AND THEN WE'LL COME TO THE OTHER TWO, THE OTHER ITEMS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANOTHER QUESTION. I'M SORRY.ALL RIGHT. PLEASE GO AHEAD, MISS SPAIN. SO. AT SOME POINT, ARE WE VOTING ON JOINING THE TWO PROPERTIES? YES. WITHIN THE WODNHAT BE THE PRO TO TAKEIR? BT MACALLEESNATION WOD APP TO T TWO PRTIES I DON'T KNOW, YOU'D WOUL CLEAN TAK I INK IGHT BE UP TO THE D T TO HAVE THE DOEPARAT VES STI A TH. TWAY YOU'RE LOIN THE PROJECT ASHO BUT WOULD STL HAVE MULTIPLE TE SGAIN, M GOIO LEITTOHE BOARD TO KE TT DECISIONTYCAY,WE WOOK AT E EN ME F TEE DON'TNOW IFE DON'FORMNN T OTHE, VE AESNATIONORTTHIS. JU IN ORDER UK 2515? BECAUSE THE APPLICANT BROUGHT UP. CAN YOU TELL ME WHY? I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS OTHER HOME. THE ARCHITECT OR, YOU KNOW, WHY DIDN'T WE LOOK AT THAT ONE AS WELL? SO THE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT ONCE YOU DESIGNATE THIS ONE AND ATTACH IT TO THE NEXT HOUSE, WELL, IF IT'S APPROVED, IT BECOMES PART OF THE DESIGNATED SITE. SO IT WILL BE PART OF OUR JURISDICTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT THE OTHER HOME, 2515, DOESN'T MERIT ANY SIGNIFICANCE OF. ON ITS OWN IT. IT MAY WE DID NOT GO INTO THE DESIGNATION REPORT OF IT, BUT IT DOES HAVE A SIMILAR TIME PERIOD AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO WE FEEL THAT IT'S IT'S APPROPRIATE TO MAINTAIN ITS HISTORIC VALUE BY TRYING TO DO THIS ADDITION IN A WAY THAT BECAUSE NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOTH APPLICATIONS. SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT MAINTAINING THE HOUSE'S LOOK OF TWO SEPARATE HOUSES BY ATTACHING THEM AT THE REAR AND STILL PROTECTING THEM UNDER OUR PURVIEW. SO IT'S JUST, I THINK, A WAY OF PROCEDURE THAT WE KIND OF TACKLED THIS.
THIS IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL APPLICATION. SO IF THIS WORKS THIS WAY, MAYBE IT DOESN'T. BUT YOU KNOW, WE FOUND IT TO BE THE ROUTE TO GO SINCE IT WILL STILL FALL UNDER OUR JURISDICTION AT THE END OF THE DAY. IF AGAIN, BOTH ITEMS ARE APPROVED. OKAY, SO IN THE FUTURE, WOULD THE THE SECOND HOME THAT IS NOT NOW DESIGNATED, WOULD THERE BE A REPORT FILED ON THAT AS WELL? SO IT'S ON FILE. AND SO THAT THE TWO ARE NOTED AS TWO DISTINCT, YOU KNOW, HOMES AT ONE TIME THAT ARE NOW JOINED. NO, I DON'T THINK LEGALLY IT WOULD BE NECESSARY. IT WOULDN'T BE NECESSARY TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD ALREADY ALREADY BE AN ADDITION TO A HISTORIC HOME.
OKAY, I DON'T THINK YOUR MIC IS ON, BUT THAT'S OKAY. IT IS OKAY. THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT MAYBE WE'RE DOING IT AS BACKWARDS, BUT AS LONG AS WE DO IT, I THINK IT'S FINE. THE PURPOSE OF THE DESIGNATION BEEN DONE BEFORE. WE HAVE JOINED TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC. THERE'S ONE ON ALHAMBRA, ALHAMBRA, BUT THEY WERE ALREADY DESIGNATED AND PART AND THEY WERE BOTH CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY. THEY'RE BOTH CONTRIBUTING, RIGHT? ONE WAS NOT CONTRIBUTING. ONE WAS CONTRIBUTING. ONE WAS LANDMARK. THAT'S RIGHT. OH THAT'S RIGHT.
THEY WERE THEY WERE BOTH CONTRIBUTING, BUT ONE WAS INDIVIDUALLY. THE ONE WAS A LANDMARK. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. SO THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER TIME SINCE I WAS AROUND. OKAY. 97.
WELL WE DID THE OTHER ONE HERE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. YEAH. MISS ALVAREZ, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I HAD THE SAME QUES. IT'S ONLY AT O OTHER EXAMPLIN AAMBR WHERE THEYAVE BEEN ED. YE JT FM CITYTTNEY. EROCERALLY, IWE TE IT INHERD, AS WE HAVE SAID, IT I PROPER PCEDU. IT LDE THE DESNAON IT SULD BE APPLIEDO THE PPEY BEIN PNTED TO SHLD NOT FL UERNSIDERION AS PARE GNATION PROCEDURE. OKAY. LANDILVA OKA AY. CEIVNYETTE? WE HAVE HE ODY IN ANCE THAT WOD LIKEO SPK R OR AINSIS PARTI SIGNN? HEANG N WE'LL CLOSEHAT TO T PUBLI HEARG AND WLL COMAC T D 'LKOR M ON THIS IRE GOI TO HREE VOTES O THIS RIG NOW. IS JUST O. Y I KNOW, FOR THI ONE OVOTE OY FOR . APPREHEOCAL HISRIDEGNATN OF THEA I HISTORICA CTURAL AND REFERENC IETAFFEPOR A ITERIAUMROUR OR A FR CRITERIA B OND CRIA. L GHT, M SPAIN,ECON WOULU PLEASE HE ROLL? MISS ALVAREZ? YES, MISS SHIELDS. YES, MISS ROLANDO. YES, MR. GARCIA? YES, MISS SPAIN. YES.
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YES. MR. MR. MAXWELL? YES. AND MR. SILVA. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED HISTORIC. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO THE NEXT PORTION OF THIS. FIRST.SECOND, COULD WE HAVE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK? YES. OKAY. WE'VE BEEN ASKED FOR JUST A QUICK BREAK. BATHROOM BREAK. SO WE'LL GRANT THAT AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK, OKAY? THANK YOU. CONVENE E MEETING. IF EVERYBODY'S HAD A QUICK, QUICK BREAK, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON. OKAY. RECORDING.
OH I'M SORRY, WE'RE WAITING FOR ANNA. BUT I SAID OKAY, THAT'S FINE, BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SHE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A SECOND. YOU ARCHITECTS ARE SO. MARIO, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A KIND OF AN OVERALL PRESENTATION, CORRECT? BOTH MYSELF AND NELSON. DYLAN, OUR ARCHITECT. OKAY.
MAKING A PRESENTATION SORT OF DEAL WITH EVERYTHING AS A AS A TOTALITY. CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BREAK IT UP INTO VOTES. OKAY. THAT'LL BE FINE. SO. OKAY. ANNA, ARE WE READY? ARE WE READY? OKAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE READY FOR YOU NOW. THANK YOU. LET'S GO BACK. OKAY. LET'S SEE. WHAT HAVE WE GOT HERE? ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. JUST A QUICK RECAP OF THE DESCRIPTION OF THE APPLICATION. SO THE APPLICATION PRESENTED REQUEST APPROVAL TO UNIFY TWO ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES INTO ONE PARCEL. DESIGN APPROVAL TO JOIN TWO HISTORIC SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS TO CREATE ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND DESIGN APPROVAL FOR ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS TO THE RESIDENCES AND SITE WORK. VARIANCES HAVE ALSO BEEN REQUESTED FROM ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 2-1016 FOR THE GROUND AREA COVERAGE AND ARTICLE TWO. SECTION 2101 D4 FOR THE MINIMUM SIDE AND REAR SETBACK. I'M GOING TO CUT YOU OFF JUST FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND WE NEED TO TAKE A QUICK VOTE ON THE ON THE LAST ITEM. OKAY. WHICH WAS THE DESIGNATION? NO, WE WE VOTED. WE DID. YES.
OH, OKAY. WELL THEN THAT'S FINE. SORRY. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. SO THE PROPOSED PROJECT TO CONNECT THE TWO RESIDENCES THROUGH A NEW REAR ADDITION THAT REMAINS MINIMALLY VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION. THE INTERVENTION RETAINS THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE SITE WHILE ALLOWING FOR COMPATIBLE, DIFFERENTIATED AND REVERSIBLE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE TWO STRUCTURES. THE PROPOSED REAR ADDITION DOES NOT ALTER OR OBSCURE CHARACTER DEFINING FRONT ELEVATION, ROOF LINES OR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, BOTH HOUSES REMAIN INDIVIDUALLY DISCERNIBLE FROM THE STREET, ENSURING THAT THE HISTORIC RHYTHM, SCALE AND MASSING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS PRESERVED. IN ADDITION TO THE MODIFICATIONS, THE ADDITIONS AND THE CONNECTION, THE APPLICANTS ARE ALSO REQUESTING THREE DIFFERENT VARIANCES ONE VARIANCES TO ALLOW FOR GROUND AREA COVERAGE OF 5310FT■!S VERSS THE REQUIRED 35%, WHICH IS 4981FT■!S. IT IS THE INTENTION F THE ARCHITECT TO CREATE A COHESIVE DESIGN THAT WOULD NOT OVERWHELM THE EXISTING ONE STORY RESIDENCES BY MAINTAINING THE NEW CONSTRUCTION AND THE CONNECTOR AT ONE STORY AND SPREADING OUT THE FOOTPRINT OF THE TWO. LOTS AND STAFF AGREED WITH THAT PROPOSAL, THAT INTENTION, AND IS IN FAVOR OF THE VARIANCE. IN ADDITION, YOU HAVE THE GRANT TO THE VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR AN ADDITION TO THE SIDE SETBACK OF FIVE FEET THREE INCHES. THIS IS AN EXISTING CONDITION AT THE 2509 RESIDENCE, AND TO GRANT A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR AN ADDITION OF A PORCH AND A REAR SETBACK OF FIVE FEET, WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND ZONING ALLOW ZONING CODE ALLOWS HISTORIC BOARD TO ALLOW OVER FIVE FOOT REAR SETBACK FOR ONE STORY STRUCTURES. AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL APPLICATION BEFORE YOU TODAY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES FOR NEARLY A YEAR, OVER A YEAR. SO STRATEGY AND HOW WE CAME BEFORE YOU TODAY HAS BEEN INTERESTING FOR ALL OF US TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT HOW THE PIECES COME TOGETHER. SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THIS GOES FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU THERE ARE MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE TO THE 2509 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL PROPERTY THE BUILDING IS IN.
WE'VE ALL PHYSICALLY WALKED THE STRUCTURE. IT IS IN PRETTY BAD DISREPAIR, SO THE OWNERS ARE TAKING ON A PRETTY BIG PRESERVATION PROJECT HERE. AND SO A LOT OF THE CONDITIONS THAT
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YOU SEE TODAY ARE ALSO GOING TO BE IMPACTED AT, I THINK, DURING CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE THERE ARE GOING TO THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE STUCCO REPAIRS THAT I THINK WE WE BELIEVE NEEDS NOW.BUT AS YOU GET INTO THE PROJECT, THEY'LL BE WORKING WITH US AND HAND IN HAND AS THEY HAVE BEEN OVER THE LAST YEAR TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS COMPATIBLE WITHIN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND ANY OTHER OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL HAVE SOME COMMENTS, I THINK, OF THE CONDITIONS BEFORE YOU TODAY, BUT WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. AND THEN THERE ARE MODIFICATIONS TO THE ADJACENT HOUSE TO MAKE THIS CONNECTOR AND TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK.
SO I'LL ALLOW NELSON AND MARIO TO DO THEIR THING, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. ANNA. MISTER CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME AGAIN. MARIO GARCIA WITH OFFICES AT 600 BRICKELL AVENUE HERE TODAY REPRESENTING VIVIAN SANCHEZ AND CHRISTINE MCGREGOR, THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTIES AT 2509 AND 2515 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL. THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TODAY, IN MY OPINION, IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW CORAL GABLES RESIDENTS STILL CARE ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND OF ALSO THINKING IN AN INNOVATIVE MANNER SO AS TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE BUILDINGS WHICH HAVE HISTORIC VALUE, BUT WHICH WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO SELL IN THIS MARKET DUE TO THE SMALL SIZE OF PARTICULAR BUILDINGS, AS IS THE CASE HERE, AND ALSO AS IS THE CASE HERE, THE VERY ADVANCED STATE OF DISREPAIR IN WHICH 2509 INDIAN MOUND IS IN. CHRISTINE AND VIVIAN HAVE BEEN RESIDING AT.
2515 INDIAN MOUND TRAIL FOR MANY YEARS. THE FORMER NEIGHBOR AT 2509 INDIAN MOUND WAS A LONG TIME OWNER AND RESIDENT AT THAT ADDRESS. BUT AS TIME PASSED AND WITH LIMITED RESOURCES, THE NEIGHBOR HAD CHALLENGES TAKING CARE OF BOTH HERSELF AND HER HOME. VIVIAN AND CHRIS ASSISTED THEIR NEIGHBOR AS THEY COULD, AND ULTIMATELY THEIR NEIGHBOR MOVED OUT TO A CARE FACILITY AND PASSED AWAY SHORTLY THEREAFTER. THE HOUSE WAS PLACED ON THE MARKET, BUT AS YOU WILL SEE, IT IS IN AN ADVANCED STATE OF DISREPAIR, MAKING IT DIFFICULT TO SELL. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, VIVIAN AND CHRIS MADE THE DECISION TO TAKE ON THE TASK OF PURCHASING THE HOUSE AND COMMITTING TO RESTORING IT AND ADDING IT TO THEIR HOME SO THAT THEY COULD ESSENTIALLY CREATE A TWO BUILDING HOME CONNECTED BY A GALLERY. AND THIS ENABLES THEM TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING SCALE NEXT TO THEM AND TO HAVE MORE AVAILABLE LIVING AREA, WHICH MAY ALSO VERY WELL BE UTILIZED IN THEIR CASE, FOR THE CARE OF AGING PARENTS SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE IN. THIS IS A UNIQUE PROPOSAL, BUT WE HAVE WORKED WITH YOUR STAFF EXTENSIVELY TO HAVE THIS PROJECT TO MAINTAIN AND PROTECT THE HISTORICAL INTEGRITY OF THE 2509 BUILDING, THERE ARE CERTAIN VARIANCES WHICH WE ARE REQUESTING, WHICH WE WILL DISCUSS LATER IN MORE DETAIL, BUT ALL THREE OF THE VARIANCES RELATE MORE TO EXISTING CONDITIONS AND ARE SUPPORTED BY OUR STAFF. WITH THAT SAID, I'LL ASK NELSON NOW TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROPOSED PLANS. THANK YOU. MARIO NELSON DE LEON LUCAS ARCHITECTURE, 500 SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY, SUITE 307. GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD MEMBERS. STAFF, I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THIS. I'VE PREPARED A LOT OF DRAWINGS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO REVIEW. SO I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THIS HOUSE FROM EVERY ANGLE, FROM ABOVE, FROM EVERY ANGLE AND FROM GROUND LEVEL, FROM EVERY ANGLE THAT IMPACTS THE DESIGN. JUST BRIEFLY, THE THE TWO PROPERTIES IN QUESTION ARE THE BOTTOM CENTER AND BOTTOM LEFT IMAGE. AND A COUPLE OF TYPICAL IMAGES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MOSTLY SINGLE STORY HOMES EXCEPT FOR THE HOME TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT, WHICH IS EQUAL IN FOOTPRINT TO THE ENTIRETY OF 2509 PROPERTY SIZE. I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IMAGES THAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN. BUT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE INSIDE. THESE ARE ACTUALLY AFTER THE HOME WAS CLEANED UP, BUT EVERYWHERE IN THE HOME IS SPALLING, STUCCO, CRACKED WALLS, BROKEN WINDOWS. THE OTHER THING INTERESTING ABOUT THE HOME IS THAT MIRIAM HAD DESIGNED THIS HOME WITH APPARENTLY SEVERAL TYPES OF WINDOWS, AMONG THEM CLEAR VIEW STEEL PUTTY, CASEMENT WINDOWS, JEALOUSY WINDOWS THAT ARE STILL IN SOME OF THE BEDROOMS THAT YOU SEE IN THE IN THE BOTTOM MIDDLE IMAGE. AND THEN AT SOME POINT, SOME REPAIRS THAT WERE MADE AND YOU SEE AN AWNING WINDOW IN THE TOP CENTER. IMAGE 2509 IS DIRECTLY TO THE LEFT OF THIS HOME. SO 2515 THE ONLY THING WE'RE GOING TO BE MODIFYING ON THIS HOME IS TO THE IMMEDIATE LEFT, WHICH IS THE GARAGE AND IN FRONT, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE A PROPERTY WALL. A FEW IMAGES OF 2515. THE BOTTOM LEFT IS THE ENTRANCE IN KEYSTONE. A FEW
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KEYSTONE DETAILS ON THIS PARTICULAR HOME AND THE CURRENT POOL IN THE BACK AND COURTYARD, WHICH WILL REMAIN THE TWO HOMES SIDE BY SIDE. CURRENTLY A LARGE SET OF EUREKA'S WHICH WILL BE REMOVED. SO THIS IS HOW THE TWO HOMES EXIST SIDE BY SIDE. NOW IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 2509 JUST BEING SLIGHTLY ASKEW TO. 2515 2509 BEING LONG AND LINEAR, FRONT TO BACK AND 2515 BEING HORIZONTAL TO THE STREET FACADE. HIGHLIGHTED IN RED ARE THE THREE EXISTING SETBACK CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM. AND THEN IN SHADED IN A DIAGONAL IS THE AREAS THAT ARE EITHER NEW CONSTRUCTION OR REMODELED CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN THE CROSS HATCHING IS THE NEW COVERED TERRACES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. CURRENTLY, NEITHER HOME HAS COVERED OUTDOOR AREAS. AND THEN AT THE TOP OF THE IMAGE, A NEW PROPERTY WALL THAT WE'LL SHOW YOU IN GREATER DETAIL AND A CONNECTING DRIVE THROUGH FROM ONE PROPERTY TO THE OTHER. AND THE REASON FOR THIS IS, IN ESSENCE, BECAUSE THE ONLY OTHER PARKING IS ON THE SWALE. RIGHT NOW, BOTH HOMES HAVE A STRAIGHT DRIVEWAY IN. AND TO MITIGATE THAT ISSUE, WE JUST FELT IT'S BETTER TO BRING A SMALL CONNECTING DRIVEWAY AND GET THE CARS OFF THE SWALE AND ONTO THE PROPERTY. BRIEFLY, THE HOME 2515 TO THE TO THE LEFT OF THE IMAGE, THE PART WHERE RESTRUCTURING. HERE'S THE GARAGE. AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS RAISE THE GARAGE FLOOR, RAISE THE GARAGE CEILING HEIGHT, INCORPORATE THAT INTO PART OF 2515. AND THEN AT 2509, THE SHADED AREA TO THE MIDDLE IS THE AREA THAT HAD BEEN MODIFIED WITH A COVERED OUTDOOR SORT OF PORCH ELEMENT, RATHER NARROW TO USE IT AS ANY, ANY REALLY FUNCTIONING SPACE. SO OUR IDEA IS TO CAPTURE THAT IN ITS ENTIRETY AND ADD TO THAT OUR NEW EXPANSION. SO THE CONNECTION TO THE TWO HOMES IS ACTUALLY A VERY NARROW GALLERY.OFF THAT GALLERY IS A NEW COVERED SUMMER KITCHEN, WHICH IS ACCESSED FROM THE NEW REIMAGINED LIVING ROOM AT 2515 FAMILY ROOM RATHER. SO ONCE WE RAISED THAT GARAGE, WE WILL INCORPORATE THAT INTO A LARGER FAMILY ROOM SPACE AND AT THE SAME TIME, AT THE TOP END, EXPAND THE KITCHEN, WHICH IS RELATIVELY SMALL, AND ADD A BUTLER'S PANTRY TO IT. ON THE RIGHT SIDE BOTTOM, WE'LL ADD A NEW MASTER SUITE, AND THEN PART OF THE INTERIOR OF THE HOME GETS REIMAGINED WITH A NEW CABANA BATH. AND WHAT WAS THE KITCHEN NOW BECOMES A STUDY ELEMENT. AND THEN TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, THE PROPOSED NEW LAUNDRY AND WALK IN CLOSET. AND THEN VERY IMPORTANT AND WE'LL SEE THIS IN OTHER IMAGES IS BETWEEN THE GARAGE OF 2509. AND THAT NEW LAUNDRY ROOM WE'RE PROPOSING IS A GREEN SLOT. IN THAT SLOT, WE'RE PROPOSING A FULL HEIGHT GLASS, CLEAR GLASS WINDOW THAT ACTS AS THE TERMINATION, THE VISUAL TERMINATION POINT TO THAT CONNECTING GALLERY. SO AS YOU WALK FROM ONE SIDE OF THE HOUSE TO THE OTHER, WE'LL WE'LL BRING IN NATURAL LIGHT AND VISUALLY OPEN THAT UP TO A, A SMALL AREA THAT WILL HAVE TROPICAL PLANTING. AND IN THE EVENING, WE IMAGINE LIGHTING THAT UP SO THAT IT CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF VISUAL INTEREST. THE HOME ON 2509 OVERALL IS ACTUALLY A VERY DARK SPACE. THE WINDOWS ARE SMALL BOTH HORIZONTALLY AND VERTICALLY. SO PART OF THE CHALLENGE HERE IS TO BRING MORE LIGHT INTO 2509. THE EXISTING ROOFS, THE AREAS THAT ARE SHADED ARE THE AREAS THAT WERE EITHER TOUCHING OR MODIFYING, AND THEN ARE AREAS THAT ARE SHOWN HERE. IN A DARKER SHADED AREA ARE THE AREAS THAT ARE REMODELED OR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THE TOP TWO IMAGES ARE THE FRONT ELEVATION. THE VERY TOP IMAGE IS HOW THE TWO HOMES RELATE ONE TO THE OTHER. THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT ELEVATION DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO FLOORS OF 18IN. THERE'S ALSO A SIGNIFICANT SLOPE FROM THE EXTREME RIGHT HAND SIDE TO THE EXTREME LEFT HAND SIDE ALONG THE PROPERTY. SO THE SECOND IMAGE DOWN SHOWS HOW WE PROPOSE TO CONNECT 2515 TO 2509. AND IN ESSENCE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO WORK WITH THE STEP DOWNS THAT ALREADY EXIST AND CREATE ANOTHER STEP DOWN AT THE GALLERY LEVEL. AND THEN THAT STEPS DOWN YET AGAIN WHEN WE TOUCH. TWO 2509 THAT NEW GALLERY IS BACK ABOUT 15FT FROM THE FRONT OF ACTUALLY MORE THAN THAT, MAYBE MORE LIKE 17FT FROM THE FRONT OF 2509. SO IT'S
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ACTUALLY IN A SLOT THAT YOU'LL SEE IN GREATER DETAIL. THE BOTTOM TWO IMAGES ARE THE REAR ELEVATIONS, THE VERY BOTTOM SHOWING IN THE MIDDLE, THE NEW SUMMER KITCHEN WITH THAT RAISED GARAGE THAT NOW BECOMES PART OF THE FAMILY ROOM WITH SLIDING DOORS THAT OPEN UP INTO THAT COVERED AREA. AND THEN TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS THE NEW MASTER SUITE, THE WINDOWS ON 2509. AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE WORKED A LOT WITH WITH STAFF. WE'RE RE DESIGNED TO BE NARROW AND TALL TO GIVE A NOD TO MARIAMS WINDOW, WHEREAS THE WINDOWS AT 2515, AS YOU CAN SEE ARE ARE SQUARE MODULES. THESE WILL MAINTAIN THE RECTANGULAR VERTICAL MODULE OF 2509 HISTORIC WINDOW GRID.THE TOP IMAGE IS 2509 VIEWED FROM THE NORTH SIDE. AND THEN WE'RE TAKING THE MIDDLE PORTION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY A SCREENED PORCH, AND THEN REIMAGINING THAT WITH A NEW LAUNDRY ROOM.
TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IS THAT LARGE PICTURE WINDOW. AND THEN TO THE LEFT OF THE LAUNDRY IS A BEDROOM WITH, AGAIN, SMALL WINDOWS, WHICH WE'RE PROPOSING TO FLANK WITH TWO FIXED WINDOWS ADJACENT TO IT. THE BEDROOM DOES REQUIRE EMERGENCY EGRESS. SO THAT MIDDLE WINDOW, WHICH IS CURRENTLY TWO PANELS, WILL CONVERT TO A SINGLE PANEL, BUT WITH A MOLDING APPLIED TO THE MIDDLE TO REPRESENT THAT BEING TWO CASEMENTS. THE BOTTOM TWO IMAGES ARE VIEWED FROM THE EXTREME SIDE OF 2515. SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE IS 2515, AND THEN WAY BACK IS 2509.
WE HAVE SECTIONS THROUGH THE HOUSE THAT WILL MORE CLEARLY SHOW. 2509 THE UPPER IMAGE IS THE CURRENT SIDE ELEVATION OF 2509 THAT FACES INTO 2515 SO OUR PLAN HERE IS REPLACE THE WINDOWS IN THE SUNROOM WITH THE CURRENT WINDOWS TO THE DINING ROOM. ARE IS OUR CONNECTION POINT WITH THE GALLERY, WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE IS A VERY NARROW ELEMENT THAT TOUCHES. 2509 TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IS A DOOR AND DOUBLE WINDOWS THAT WERE PART OF THE ORIGINAL KITCHEN. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE TWO EDGES OF THAT AND CREATE IN THE NEW STUDY FOR WINDOWS IN THE SAME WIDTH OF THE SUNROOM WINDOWS. AND THEN THE NEXT ELEMENT THAT YOU SEE IS A DOOR THAT IS CURRENTLY A BATHROOM THAT WILL TURN INTO THE CABANA BATH. AND THEN THE NEW WING, WHICH IS THE MASTER BEDROOM WING, AGAIN WITH SMALL PORCH. AND A LOT OF THIS IS JUST TO PROVIDE AN OUTDOOR SEATING AREA THAT WHERE, WHERE NONE EXISTS. NOW THE BOTTOM IMAGE IS TAKEN THROUGH THE NEW SUMMER KITCHEN. WE PROPOSED TO HAVE EXPOSED WOOD CEILINGS AND ADD ADD HEIGHT TO THAT SPACE. THERE'S A SLOT BETWEEN THE SUMMER KITCHEN AND 2509, SO IT'S TRANSPARENT.
THEY'LL BE GREENERY THERE AND WE'LL HAVE SOME LANDSCAPING, SOME THIN PALM ELEMENTS. THE UPPER IMAGE IS 2515 AS IT FACES TOWARD 2509. SO THE PLAN HERE IS TO RAISE THAT GARAGE LEVEL THE FLOOR WITH 2515, MAKE THAT A MUCH LARGER FAMILY ROOM. AND THEN THE IMAGE BELOW THAT IS FORWARD OF THE FACADE WITH THE NEW CONNECTOR GALLERY AND THE SUMMER KITCHEN TO THE LEFT.
THIS IS A ELEVATIONS OF ANOTHER HOME ON THE STREET THAT WAS DONE BY MARION, BUT HAD SIMILAR ELEMENTS YOU COULD SEE ON THE UPPER RIGHT, THE SUNROOM WITH THE SAME PROPORTIONS. TO THE LEFT OF THAT IS A SCREENED ENCLOSURE. SO THE SCREENS WERE ACTUALLY RATHER LARGE. AND TAKING A CUE FROM THOSE LARGE SCREENS IS WHAT WE TOOK A CUE FROM TO CREATE THAT LARGE PICTURE WINDOW THAT TERMINATES THE ACCESS OF OUR GALLERY THAT CONNECTS ONE HOUSE TO THE OTHER.
WE'LL HAVE MULTIPLE VIEWS OF THE PROPOSED WALLS. THE WAY I'VE DESIGNED THE WALLS IS BECAUSE OF THE DROP IN THE PROPERTIES. THE WALLS FLUCTUATE BETWEEN 28 AND 36 INCH IN HEIGHT, AND THEY SORT OF CASCADE DOWN AS THE PROPERTY CASCADES DOWN. SO THE IMAGE AT THE END IS A WALL THAT LOOKS RELATIVELY UNIFORM IN HEIGHT ALL THE WAY THROUGH. AND WE DO THAT JUST WITH THE STEP DOWN DESIGN. THERE ARE NO GATES DESIGNS, SO THE ENTRYWAYS INTO THE HOME ARE JUST OPEN BETWEEN TWO SLIGHTLY RAISED PILLARS AT THE END OF THE WALL, WITH A LIGHT FIXTURE ON TOP APPEAR LIGHT. THIS IS ANOTHER STYLIZED VIEW OF HOW THOSE WALLS RELATE TO THE HOME. SEVERAL PROJECTS, OR RATHER SEVERAL HOMES ON THE SITE ALREADY HAVE LOW WALLS,
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INCLUDING ONE THAT HAD DONE ACROSS THE STREET SOME YEARS AGO USING 30 INCH HIGH WALLS.SO THE CONTEXTUALLY, THERE'S A FEW WALLS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY AT THIS HEIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU NOW SEVERAL VIEWS, SEVERAL ANGLES, AERIAL VIEWS. THIS. THIS IS HOW BOTH HOMES CURRENTLY RELATE ONE TO THE OTHER. AND THEN THIS IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO. IN THE MIDDLE YOU SEE A VERY THIN CONNECTOR, WHICH IS OUR GALLERY CONNECTING FROM 2515 TO 2509.
THE HOMES AS THEY EXIST TODAY. AND THEN AS PROPOSED WITH THIS LOW WALL IN THE FRONT, THE WALL WILL BE SET BACK FROM THE SIDEWALK 8 TO 12IN. AND WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF GREENERY IN FRONT OF THAT WALL. AND THEN THIS IS A VIEW STANDING BACK, LOOKING AT THE TWO PROPERTIES TOGETHER WITH THE ADDITION, THE SLIGHTLY RAISED GARAGE AND THE PROPERTY WALLS. PURPOSEFULLY, I'VE LEFT THE LANDSCAPING OFF TO FOCUS ON THE ARCHITECTURE SO YOU COULD SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH BETWEEN THE TWO HOMES, HOW THEY RELATE TO EACH OTHER, AND HOW THE ROOFS STEP DOWN ONE TO THE OTHER. THIS IS THE SAME THING FROM THE AERIAL VIEW. NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM 2509, AND THE CONNECTION TO BETWEEN THE TWO HOMES AND THE ADDITION TO THE BACK, AND THEN THE SAME THING FROM THE REAR, THE TWO HOMES AS THEY EXIST NOW AND THEN THE CONNECTIONS AT THE REAR SHOWING THE TWO PORCHES, THE NEW MASTER WING AT THE BOTTOM, AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS THE MASTER BATH WITH A TUB ALCOVE THAT POPS OUT AND GIVES A LITTLE DETAIL TO THE REAR OF THAT FACADE. A VIEW OF THE CURRENT POOL COURTYARD CONDITION MINUS ANY OF THE LANDSCAPING. AND THEN OUR PROPOSED CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO SHOWING THE NEW TWO COVERED AREAS AND THE TRANSITION FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. YOU'RE GOING TO GET TIRED OF SEEING THREE D'S, BUT I FIGURED I'D COVER ALL THE ANGLES FOR YOU. IS THIS YOUR SLIDE? THAT'S REALLY THAT'S REALLY MORE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. I THINK WHAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT NOW, WE ARE REQUESTING SOME VARIANCES AND MAYBE NOTHING. GO BACK TO THE IMAGE THAT SHOWED THE RED ARROWS WHERE THE VARIANCES ARE PROPOSED. THE VARIANCES FOR SETBACK ARE VARIANCES ON SIDES OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THE EXISTING SETBACK IS ALREADY AT AT FIVE FEET, EITHER IN THE REAR ON THE SIDE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE IN RED SQUARES.
THAT SETBACK IS PREEXISTING. SINCE WE'RE DOING WORK ON EACH OF THOSE SIDES, WE ALSO NEED TO REQUEST THE VARIANCE BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING ON THAT SIDE AND IN SOME CASES COMING CLOSER MATCHING THAT CONDITION. BUT IT'S A CONDITION THAT ALREADY EXISTS AS FAR AS THE SETBACKS ARE CONCERNED. ON LOT COVERAGE. WE DO HAVE THE CHALLENGE, OF COURSE, THAT THESE WERE TWO PRIMARY HOMES, SO THEY HAD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LOT COVERAGE. WE'RE NOW LOOKING TO TO COMBINE THEM. AND THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GOING OVER IN LOT COVERAGE IS ABOUT 329FT■!S, NOT A SIGNIFICAT AMOUNT WHEN YOU CONSIDER EVERYTHING ELSE. THE POOL AREA, FOR EXAMPLE, IS 420FT■!S THERE.
SO IT'S JUST A COMBINATION OF EXISTING BUILDING AND PROPOSED BUILDING SORT OF COMING ABOUT AND CREATING THAT. WE ARE WITHIN THE AMOUNT OF FLOOR AREA THAT IS PERMITTED FOR THIS PROPERTY. SO THAT'S OUR DISCUSSION ON VARIANCES, BOTH, ALL OF WHICH ARE BEING RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY OUR STAFF. AND I THINK WE WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONDITIONS, RIGHT. I THINK THE FIRST FIVE IN PARTICULAR, AND I THINK WITH ANNA, WE COULD HAVE A LITTLE INTERACTION ON THAT BECAUSE ON THE VERY FIRST CONDITION OF APPROVAL, IF YOU COULD READ IT THERE. NELSON. YEAH, I CAN GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONS. SO THE FIRST ONE IS WINDOW AND DOOR BUTTONS TO BE HIGH PROFILE. OUR REQUEST HERE IS TO GO FULL VIEW IN THE TOTALITY OF 2509. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THERE WAS A NUMBER OF WINDOW STYLES FROM THE BEGINNING. THE SUNROOM, WHICH IS THE MAIN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE OF THE HOME, WAS ALWAYS FULL VIEW. THE ADJACENT HOME 2515 IS FULL VIEW. THERE WAS A COMBINATION ALWAYS OF STEEL AND PUTTY AND JEALOUSY AND FULL VIEW AND SCREEN. IT IS A VERY SMALL HOME, TWO BEDROOMS WITH A VERY SMALL FOOTPRINT. THE AMOUNT OF WINDOWS THAT WERE ORIGINAL STEEL AND PUTTY THAT WOULD BE REINCORPORATED IF WE HAD TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION IS PROBABLY FIVE WINDOWS. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THOUGHT ARCHITECTURALLY, ESTHETICALLY, IT MADE MORE SENSE BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE WINDOWS ARE IN REPURPOSED ROOMS TO JUST GO FULL VIEW. THE. AND ON THAT
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TOPIC IN PARTICULAR, I THINK, ANNA, THE CONVERSATION WE HAD EARLIER, HISTORICALLY, THE VAST MAJORITY OF WINDOWS, AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL, BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE FOR. 2509 DID NOT INCLUDE BUTTONS, RIGHT? THE ONES AT THE SOLARIUM THAT THAT FRONT ROOM WOOD AND THE DRAWINGS FOR SINCE THE DRAWINGS WEREN'T FOUND FOR. 2509, WE KIND OF REFERENCED THE ONES FOR 2501, WHICH I BELIEVE IS IN THE DESIGNATION REPORT. AND THEY ALSO REFERENCE THEM HERE TODAY. IT ACTUALLY SPECIFICALLY SAYS NO MUNTINS. SO THAT THAT CIRCULAR ROOM DIDN'T HAVE MUTTONS TO BEGIN WITH, AT LEAST IN THE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE BASED OFF OF THE DRAWINGS FOR THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR. AND LIKE SO THE, THE, THE DRAWINGS THAT WE'RE REFERENCING ARE FOR A BUILDING THAT IS NEXT DOOR ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY, BECAUSE THE DRAWINGS FOR THIS HOUSE WERE NOT FOUND. SO THE ORIGINAL DRAWINGS THAT I THINK, NELSON, YOU HAD IT. IF YOU CAN PUT IT BACK UP, THERE'S ACTUALLY A NOTE ON THE DRAWING THAT SAYS NO MUNTINS. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THAT ONE.IT'S ALSO WITHIN THE DESIGNATION REPORT. BUT THE OTHER HOUSE, THE WINDOW, THE OTHER WINDOWS IN THE HOUSE DO HAVE ONES. BUT AS NELSON WAS SAYING, THAT ALMOST EVERY OTHER, EVERY SINGLE OPENING IS EITHER BEING MODIFIED OR CHANGED DUE TO THE SITUATION OF THE NEW ADDITIONS AND THE PROPOSED FROM THE REAR AND THE SIDE, AND THEN THE WINDOWS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE 2509. BACK IS ACTUALLY WHERE THERE WAS AN ADDITION WHERE THAT SCREENED ENCLOSURE THE LAUNDRY ROOM WAS, IS ALSO ALL NEW, SO ALMOST EVERY OPENING IS BEING ALTERED. I THINK HIS INTENTION, THE INTENTIONS THERE WERE TO DO WINDOWS IN THE SAME PROPORTION OF A CASEMENT WINDOW, BUT NOT HAVE MUNTINS, SINCE NONE OF THESE OTHER AREAS ARE GOING TO BE VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, AND THEY'RE EITHER BEHIND THE CONNECTOR PIECE OR IN A RECESSED AREA. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT MAKES SENSE. AND YOU'RE NOT TOUCHING THE WINDOWS IN THE OTHER. NO. THE WINDOWS AT 2515 ARE STAYING THE SAME. OKAY. SO YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THESE FEW IN THIS ONE, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU DON'T FIND ANY EVIDENCE THAT THAT THE THE WINDOWS IN THE CURVE HAD BUTTONS ON IT. AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE PLANS SHOW THAT THAT THAT IT'S NOT. YEAH. SO IN THE DESIGNATION REPORT FOR 2509 AT THE REAR, WE HAVE THE DRAWINGS FOR A PROPERTY THAT WAS IS SIMILAR IN STYLE AND CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS THE ONES THAT NELSON HAD KIND OF PUT UP, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME ELEVATION DRAWING. THERE'S ACTUALLY A NOTE. THAT SAYS. STEEL NO MUNTINS, AND IT'S WITHIN THAT CIRCULAR ROOM, BUT ALL THE OTHER FRONT WINDOWS WOULD DID HAVE BUTTONS. WELL, THIS HOUSE SPECIFICALLY DOESN'T HAVE FRONT WINDOWS. YEAH, YEAH. THE LITTLE HOUSE. RIGHT. OKAY. THE ONES TOWARD THE REAR IN THE BACK WOULD HAVE. BUT AGAIN, ALL OF THOSE OPENINGS ARE PRETTY MUCH EITHER BEING ALTERED OR CHANGED DUE TO THE LOCATION OF THE ADDITIONS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. THANK YOU. AND ONE THING THAT WE DO HAVE IS A HISTORIC PHOTO OF 2509 THAT AT LEAST SHOWS THAT THE CIRCULAR SOLARIUM WINDOWS DIDN'T HAVE MUNTINS. SO I THINK NOW WE'LL GO ON TO DISCUSS CONDITION NUMBER TWO, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH GLAZING. YES. CLEAR GLASS.
SO CLEAR GLASS, CLEAR GLASS HAS BECOME A REAL CHALLENGE THESE DAYS BECAUSE OF ENERGY CONSERVATION AND ENERGY CALCULATIONS. BUT WE DID DISCUSS THIS WITH STAFF, AND OUR PLAN IS TO SUBMIT GLASS SAMPLES FOR THEM TO REVIEW PRIOR TO MOVING FORWARD. ON ORDERING WINDOWS. ITEM THREE IS THAT ONE, WE WOULD PROPOSE A BRONZE TINT, NOT NOT TO HAVE IT CLEAR. AND I THINK IF WE CAN SHARE THE SCREEN, WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS CLEAR AND WHAT IS BRONZE TINT. AND IT'S NOT REALLY TOO MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE SHARING IT, BUT LET'S NOT GET INTO THAT NOW, OKAY? LET'S KEEP MOVING. SO LET'S KEEP ON GOING. JUST ABOUT THREE MORE TO DISCUSS. SO WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS NEXT? LET'S GO. IN ORDER ON TO DISCUSS ALL OF THEM. NO, I THINK WE ONLY NEED TO GO TO NUMBER FIVE. GO AHEAD. NUMBER THREE, ROOF TILE. CORRECT. TO BE A TRUE BARREL TILE. SO WE HAVE NOTED ON THE PLANS THE TILE TO BE TRUE BARREL. IN FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OWNERS. THEIR CURRENT HOME HAS AN STL, WHICH I BELIEVE I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MOMENT THAT THEY BROUGHT WITH THEM. THEY ALSO BROUGHT A SAMPLE OF A BARREL TILE THAT'S IN THE SAME COLOR RANGE. THEIR DESIRE WOULD BE TO KEEP BOTH HOMES WITH AN S TILE, RATHER THAN HAVING AN S TILE AT 2515, AND A TRUE BARREL AT 2509.
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AND HOW OLD IS THE ROOF AT 2515? IT'S LIKE 12 TO 14 YEARS. I THOUGHT THEY SAID IT WAS 1991.YEAH, 30 YEARS. THE HOUSE 2515 IS THE NEXT DOOR HOUSE. THE HOUSE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS 2509 OKAY, SO THE HOUSE WE'RE CONNECTING TO THE ROOF IS 12 TO 14 YEARS OLD. SO NUMBER FOUR. SO AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REDO THAT ROOF. AND STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND AN S TILE. THAT'S I'M SORRY, NOT S TILE. I APOLOGIZE. A BARREL TILE WHICH IS IN THE CONDITIONS.
YEAH. I'M NOT GOING TO. AND THE THE LAST CONDITION TO DISCUSS WOULD BE THE FRONT DOOR WOULD BE WHAT MARIO. THE FRONT DOOR OF 2509, WHICH WE ARE LOOKING TO SOMEWHAT DATED RIGHT NOW. IT HAS LOST THE SCREEN THAT IT HAD PREVIOUSLY, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO INCORPORATE A DOOR INSPIRED BY THE ORIGINAL DOOR, BUT WHICH INCORPORATES SOME GLASS. DO YOU HAVE A PHOTO ON THIS ON THE SLIDE THAT'S UP NOW ON THE UPPER LEFT IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE HOME PRIOR TO THE SCREEN DOOR BEING REMOVED, AND JUST BELOW THAT IS A SCREEN DOOR. IT IT'S NOT AS BUSY AS THAT IMAGE.
IT WOULD BE A THIN METAL. THE IDEA IS GOING BACK AGAIN TO THE HOME BEING SO DARK THAT THE ORIGINAL HOME ALWAYS HAD A SCREEN DOOR WITH A METAL DESIGN ON THAT DOOR. SO THE DOOR WHICH IS BEHIND THE SCREEN DOOR, THE WOOD DOOR WAS REALLY NEVER VISIBLE UNTIL YOU CAME TO VISIT THE HOUSE AND YOU OPENED THE SCREEN DOOR, AND THEN THEY OPENED THE WOOD DOOR. SO FROM THE STREET, THE SCREEN DOOR WAS WHAT WAS ALWAYS VISIBLE. SO OUR PROPOSAL IS TO HAVE A DOOR THAT'S A GLASS DOOR WITH A PROPORTIONS OF THE SCREEN DOOR WITH A METAL DESIGN ON FRONT OF THAT DOOR TO GIVE A NOD TO THE ORIGINAL SCREEN DOOR DESIGN, BUT ALLOW US TO GET MORE LIGHT INTO THAT LIVING ROOM SPACE. HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE DOOR EXISTING. THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU KNOW THE NEW DOOR WOULD BE, RIGHT? SO DO YOU HAVE THE PHOTOGRAPH OF THE EXISTING DOOR THAT THEY'RE SAYING YOU HAVE TO. IT'S IN THE IN THE REPORT, BUT ALSO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, THERE'S PHOTOS, I BELIEVE, THAT I HAD ADDED OF THE COA, THE COA REPORT. YEAH. THEY'RE NOT ONLINE. THEY'LL BE ON ON THEIR REPORT. RIGHT, RIGHT. THERE WE GO. FAR BACK ENOUGH. OH, THERE'S A PICTURE OF THE DOOR. THERE'S A HISTORIC PHOTO WITH THE PHOTO OF THE SCREEN DOOR TO KEEP GOING BACK. YEAH, THEY'RE HARD TO SEE, BUT THAT'S THE ONE.
ANY OTHER PHOTO IN THE DESIGNATION REPORT? THERE WAS A FEW FROM 19. I THINK THE SCREEN DOOR WAS THERE UP UNTIL RECENTLY. RIGHT. OR IS IT STILL ON SITE? I CAN'T REMEMBER, I HAVE THE PHOTO HERE. I, I'M TRYING TO CHECK IF. YES. THEY'RE IN THIS PHOTO. YOU CAN SEE IT. THERE'S A 90S PHOTO. OH, HERE WE GO. AND THE OTHER PRETTY HARD TO SEE THE SCREEN.
YOU CAN SEE THE SCREEN DOOR, BUT YEAH, CAN'T CAN'T REALLY SEE THE OTHER DOOR. THAT'S WHAT HE'S. YEAH. THEY'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT DEBATING THAT THE ORIGINAL DOOR WAS WOOD. YOU'RE TRYING TO MATCH THE SCREEN DOOR. THAT'S THE PROPOSAL. YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND US. THE SCREEN DOOR. A CLEAR IMAGE OF THE SCREEN. YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE. RATHER THAN REPLACE THE WOOD DOOR WITH A NEW SOLID WOOD DOOR, REPLACE THE WOOD DOOR WITH A DOOR THAT GIVES A NOD TO THE SCREEN DOOR.
BUT AS AN IMPACT RATED DOOR WITH A METAL DESIGN IN FRONT. RIGHT. AND THERE WOULD BE NO OTHER FRONT DOOR, THAT WOULD BE THE FRONT DOOR. THAT WOULD BE THE FRONT DOOR, CORRECT? YEAH.
THAT'S YEAH, YOU CAN SEE THAT. IT'S SORT OF A TRIANGULAR OR SOMETHING SMALLER THING.
AMERICAN IMPACT. YEAH, YEAH. COMPUTER SCREEN. DO YOU SEE MISSIONS THERE? COULD BE. YEAH, WE CAN SEE IT BETTER ON THE SCREEN. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK I'LL JUST HAVE SOME CLOSING COMMENTS. CAN YOU AGREE TO ALL THE REST OF THE THE OTHER CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL? WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT. YEAH. WE WORKED ON THEM EXTENSIVELY WITH STAFF. AND THESE TOP FIVE ONES WERE THE ONES WE HAD DISCUSSION. SO IN CONCLUSION, IT IS HARDER AND HARDER TO PRESERVE AND ADAPTIVE REUSE HISTORIC HOMES BECAUSE OF EVER APPRECIATING LAND VALUES AND BUYER DEMANDS FOR BIGGER HOMES. AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE TODAY IS SOMETHING WHICH
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RESPONDS TO THAT CHALLENGE AND RESPONDS SORT OF WITH SOME INNOVATION. WE FEEL THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS IN THAT SPIRIT AND PROVIDES THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT THE HISTORY AND SCALE OF THIS PROPERTY AND MAKE IT TRULY LIVABLE FOR MY CLIENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE THE WHOLE TEAM HERE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. BOTH OF YOU. OKAY. QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD PRESENTATION. WHAT AN INTERESTING THING. WHAT AN AMAZING, INTERESTING PLAN. AND WHO EVER THOUGHT OF PURCHASING THAT OTHER HOUSE AND COMBINING IT. KUDOS TO YOU BECAUSE IT'S REALLY A FASCINATING PROJECT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MR. GARCIA PONCE. THANK YOU. I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT I NOW HAVE TWO, WHICH IS GREAT. THE FIRST ONE IS REALLY A QUESTION TO STAFF WITH REGARDS TO ONE OF THE VARIANCES, THE TWO FIVE FOOT VARIANCES ON THE SIDES, I THINK ARE THEY MEET ALL THE CRITERIA. I'M NOT SURE IF THE FIRST VARIANCE MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA. SPECIFICALLY CRITERIA NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS THAT THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES DO NOT RESULT FROM THE ACTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING HOW THE. I CAN ANSWER THAT, IF YOU LIKE. AND THE OTHER ADDITIONS I ASKED STAFF, I'LL ASK YOU IN A SECOND. OKAY, WE'LL SEE IF WE HAVE THE SAME ANSWER. BUT NO, I UNDERSTAND, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED BECAUSE OUR INTENTION OF THIS PROJECT WAS FINDING A WAY TO DO THIS ADDITION SO THAT IT DIDN'T OVERWHELM THE STRUCTURE. AND BY NOT GOING UP, YOU HAVE TO GO OUT. AND THAT WAS OUR OUR KIND OF WAY OF MAKING SURE THAT THEY COULD STILL PRESERVE THE STRUCTURE WITHIN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINTS AND STILL BE ABLE TO CREATE A CONNECTOR PIECE THAT CAN MAKE THE TWO HOUSES USABLE AS ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SO I THINK THAT I THINK ALL THE OTHER CRITERIA ARE PERFECT.IT'S YES TO ALL OF THEM. I STILL NOT SURE IF THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. MR. DE LEON, WOULD YOU? OKAY. THANK YOU. SO 2515 HAS A NON-CONFORMING FIVE FOOT THREE SETBACK AT THE MOMENT AT THE REAR CORNER. THE ADDITION WE'RE PROPOSING AT THE MASTER BEDROOM SUITE HAS ONE CORNER OF IT, WHICH IS THE PORCH, WHICH WILL BE AT SEVEN FOOT ONE. WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT COMING TO FIVE FEET. IT WILL BE AT SEVEN FOOT ONE. I THINK FIVE FEET WAS PUT AS A SORT OF A SAFETY FACTOR BECAUSE OF THE LANGUAGES IN THE CODE, BUT IT'S SEVEN FOOT ONE. IF THE PORCH WOULD BE REMOVED, THE MAIN BEDROOM ITSELF WOULD BE AT TEN FEET. SO I'M FINE WITH THE SIDE SETBACKS. MY QUESTION IS, WITH REGARD TO THE 35% LOT COVERAGE, OKAY, THE 35% LOT COVERAGE, I WAS HOPING THAT YOU'D HAVE SOME MATH OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ON THEIR SITES. THAT WOULD GIVE SOME RATIONALE AS TO WHY YOU HAVE TO EXCEED 35% THROUGH NO ACTION OR FAULT OF YOUR OWN. SO WE DID, UNRELATED TO YOUR QUESTION, MAINTAIN THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT WITHOUT REQUIRING A VARIANCE. AS YOU KNOW, THE THE CODE HAS A BUNCH OF THINGS TO JUGGLE. THE ADDITION OF THE COVERED PORCHES. THE SUMMER KITCHEN IN PARTICULAR IS WHAT TAKES US OVER THE NUMBER. SO OUR THINKING WAS EITHER HOME HAS AN OUTDOOR SPACE AT THE MOMENT THAT YOU COULD SIT OUTSIDE AND ENJOY THAT BEAUTIFUL POOL COURTYARD VIEW. SO WE'RE REQUESTING HUMBLY THAT THAT VARIANCE GET APPROVED SO THAT THERE'S COVERED SEATING AREA OUTSIDE THE HOME. SO AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT. IT IS STILL 329FT OVER. AND IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE YOU'RE ADDING AN ADDITION LIKE YOU ARE, YOU'RE MAKING, YOU'RE CAUSING THIS OVERAGE. YOU CAN CHOOSE TO MAKE IT 329FT LESS AND THEN IT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE. CAN I INTERRUPT? I'M SORRY. SURE. NO, NO, JUST BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HELP WITH THAT MATH. SO THERE'S A NEW TEXT AMENDMENT THAT ALLOWS FOR WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DETACHED PORCHES TO NOW BE ATTACHED AND STILL FALL IN THE ADDITIONAL 10% CALCULATION.
DOES THAT HELP YOU WITH THE MATH? SO THAT WAS WHEN WE APPLIED, RIGHT? WHEN WE APPLY THE NEW CODE THAT DISAPPEARS. BUT IN AN ABUNDANCE OF SAFETY BECAUSE THERE ARE TWEAKS TO THE CODE AND IT'S A BRAND NEW THING, WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT WAS GOING TO LAST. SO WE DECIDED, LET'S JUST GO WITH THE VARIANCE. IF THE CODE STICKS WITH THAT CHANGE, WHICH I THINK JUST OCCURRED. YEAH, IT'S ONLINE. IT'S RELATIVELY RECENTLY. YES. THEN WE'RE
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COMPLETELY IN COMPLIANCE AND THEN THE VARIANCE BECOMES A NON-ISSUE, RIGHT? SO THEN THEY ALSO HAVE IN THE PAST NOT WANTED THE APPLICANT, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE ADDING OUTDOOR SPACE WHERE THERE ISN'T ANY OUTDOOR SPACE TO ALTER THE HISTORIC HOME TO GET IT. AND SO, ALTHOUGH I GUESS TECHNICALLY IT'S THEY'RE DOING IT WOULD IT'S BECAUSE THE NATURE OF THE HISTORIC HOME. SO THE HARDSHIP IS THAT IT'S A HISTORIC HOME. IN THE PAST, WHEN WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH JUST ONE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S HISTORIC, YOU DIDN'T WANT TO ALTER IT. AND SO YOU WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DO THE LARGER SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND YOU ALSO DIDN'T WANT THEM TO GO UP.SO IT WAS THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE PROPERTY. NOT SO MUCH THE BECAUSE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO SO MANY SQUARE FEET IN A HOUSE. AND SO IF YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO DO A SECOND FLOOR ADDITION, THEN THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO IS INCREASE THE LOT COVERAGE. SO THAT'S HOW WE'VE LOOKED AT IT IN THE PAST. OKAY. MR. SILVER, WERE YOU DONE? MR. PONCE, ARE YOU IS IT THE SAME ITEM? WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO I HAVE I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS. SO IT'S ACTUALLY AND THIS IS AGAIN, CLARITY FROM STAFF IS BECAUSE WE WERE INFORMED THAT IF THERE IS A NO AS PART OF ANY OF THESE THINGS, THEN IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE, WHICH IS WHY I WAS HOPING THAT THE APPLICANT OR THE STAFF WOULD TALK ABOUT WHAT MISS ALVAREZ MENTIONED, WHICH THIS IS OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AND THAT THE CURRENT LAWS WOULD ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO CONFIRM THAT, BECAUSE IT IS, IN MY OPINION, A NO FOR NUMBER TWO, UNLESS IT IS COVERED OTHERWISE. LET ME TRY TO ADDRESS THAT SO THAT THAT CURRENT CHANGE TO THE CODE IS IN PROCESS AND WOULD POTENTIALLY PROVIDE THE RELIEF. BUT AT THE SAME TIME AS MISS SPAIN WAS ALREADY TALKING, IS IT IN PROCESS OR HAS IT BEEN APPROVED? IT'S BEEN APPROVED.
OKAY, THAT'S FOR STAFF. LET ME GET THAT. CLARIFY FROM CITY STAFF. DOES THAT ADDRESS OUR ISSUE? WELL, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHEN IT PASSED OR IF IT PASSED ON TUESDAY OR NOT. I HAVE I HAVE A PROJECT AT THE CITY FOR THAT DEPENDED ON THAT CODE AMENDMENT. AND IT'S YEAH, THE ZONING REVIEW OCCURRED. IT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION IN DECEMBER. IN. THE CODE I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO PUT MY QUESTION ON HOLD, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR CITY TO CONFIRM WHETHER IT WAS PASSED. AND THEN THAT GOES ASIDE. AND I'M SURE WE HAVE MANY MORE OTHER QUESTIONS TO TALK ABOUT. OKAY. ARE YOU FINISHED? OKAY. I THINK I MEAN, I STILL WANT TO ARGUE NOT IT'S NOT AN ARGUMENT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST CLARIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT IS NOT A VACANT LOT. SO YOU'RE STARTING THE HARDSHIP IS ALREADY THAT YOU'RE STARTING WITH GROUND AREA COVERAGE THAT EXISTS. SO TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THAT SITE, YOU HAVE TO ALLOW FOR THE PRESERVATION AND ALLOW FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THE SITE. YOU THIS IS WHERE THAT VARIANCE ALLOWS TO DO BOTH THINGS AND MAKE THEM USABLE. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION AND THEIR INTENTION WAS NOT TO ALTER THE BUILDING TO A POINT THAT IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A, AN OVERWHELMING MASS ON TOP OF THE BUILDING AND DOING A SECOND FLOOR BY GOING LOW AND STAYING AT THAT GROUND FLOOR LEVEL. AND STAFF WAS SUPPORTING THAT AND ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING THAT THEY MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION RATHER THAN COME UP TO US WITH A AND THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION I HAVE. OUT OF THE EIGHT SEVEN OF THEM, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. I HAVE, BUT YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT IT AS I'M LOOKING AT THE QUESTION AS ASKED. SO IF YOU CAN FIND OUT IF IT'S PASSED, THAT WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL.
WE'LL WORK ON IT. BUT I DO THINK THAT IF WE NEED TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS VARIANCE BECAUSE IT IT, I DON'T WANT THEM TO GET INTO THE ZONING DEPARTMENT AND, AND HAVE TO DO THAT BATTLE WITH ZONING. I DON'T DISAGREE TOTALLY APPROPRIATE TO DO THAT ON THIS PROPERTY. I'M GOING TO ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO TALK AND I'LL GIVE IT. MR. GARCIA YOU FINISHED? YES. OKAY. MR. SILVA, SO I HAVE I HAVE SOME SOME GENERAL COMMENTS, BUT BEFORE I GET INTO THAT KIND OF PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT CESAR WAS SAYING, WAS THAT JUST LOOKING AT THIS QUICKLY, IT SEEMS AS IF YOU WERE PRETTY CLOSE TO NON-CONFORMING TO BEGIN WITH ON ONE OF THOSE SITES. RIGHT? SO IF YOU HAVE THAT CALCULATION SOMEWHERE, NELSON, AS TO WHAT THE EXISTING 35% RULE WAS, BECAUSE TO ME, JUST LOOKING AT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU WERE OVER AND THEN THEN THE EASEMENT, THEN THE THEN THE VARIANCE IS VERY SIMPLE TO GRANT, RIGHT? IT'S AN EXISTING NONCONFORMANCE WE'RE ALLOWING YOU TO ADD. SO. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE MAYBE YOU WERE. YOU'RE ASKING. RIGHT? SO, SO SO THAT'S ONE THING, RIGHT? THE SECOND THING WAS IN GENERAL, I THINK THIS IS THIS IS A GREAT APPROACH, RIGHT? I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A WAY FOR PRESERVATION TO, TO FUNCTION IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN WHAT WE'RE USED TO SEEING, RIGHT? WE'RE KIND OF ALL CONFUSED AND, BUT, BUT IN REALITY, YOU'RE RESPECTING THAT HOUSE ALMOST
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100%, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT TOUCHING THAT. WHEREAS SOMEONE ELSE COULD HAVE BOUGHT THAT LOT AND DONE A TWO STORY ADDITION THAT WAS ALLOWABLE BY FAR AS ALLOWABLE BY CODE, WE WOULD HAVE REVIEWED IT. BUT BUT TO ME, THIS, THIS, THIS CONCEPT OF UNITING THESE TWO LOTS FROM A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PERSPECTIVE, IT OFFERS MORE PROTECTION TO TO EACH HOUSE, RIGHT? THAT'S ONE THING. THE SECOND, THE SECOND THING, AND WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE TRICKY IS URBANISTICALLY HOW IT WORKS, RIGHT? LOT SIZE, RIGHT HOUSE SIZE. SO HOW WE CONNECT THIS THING BECOMES REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL. RIGHT? AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB OF THE CONNECTION OF THE STEP DOWN. I THINK THE CONNECTION OCCURS TO THE REAR. SO I THINK THAT'S VERY WELL DONE. THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I HAVE ON THAT CONNECTION WAS, IS THE FINAL LITTLE PIECE, RIGHT? AND AND YOU CAN'T AND I MAYBE NITPICKING HERE BECAUSE THAT CONNECTION HAPPENED SORT OF AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE, FROM THE ROUNDED VOLUME. RIGHT.BUT THERE'S ONE OF YOUR RENDERINGS IN THE PACKAGE, WHICH, WHICH, WHICH REALLY THESE ARE NOT NUMBERED, BUT IT'S THE, IT'S SORT OF THE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO PULL IT UP IN YOUR PRESENTATION. IT'S THE, IT'S THE, IT'S THE FRONTAL RENDERING. KHGI-TV COULD YOU PUT THE POWERPOINT BACK UP? IT'S SORT OF THE PENCIL RENDERING, RIGHT WHERE, WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT ALMOST, ALMOST IN ELEVATION, BUT IT'S A PERSPECTIVE DRAWING RIGHT TOWARDS THE BACK. ARE YOU REFERENCING THE SECTION VIEW THROUGH? NO, NO, NO, IT'S IT'S LIKE A RENDERED ELEVATION. NO, NOT IT'S IT'S TURN IT AROUND. YEAH. IT'S THIS ONE. NELSON THE IT'S ALMOST LIKE A, IT'S LIKE A PENCIL RENDERED. OKAY. SORT OF TO THE BACK OF THE. YEAH. THE THE COMBINED. YEAH. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE? IT'S COMING UP. THIS. YEAH. YEAH.
THAT ONE. NEXT. NEXT. IT'S ONE OF THE THAT I THINK IT'S THE NEXT ONE. NO TOO FAR. I THINK YOU PASSED. WE DID GO BACK. NO. FAIR. THIS FAMILY. IT WAS. NOT THAT ONE. NO IT'S NOT THAT ONE.
IT'S NOT THAT ONE. BUT IN ANY CASE, MY POINT IS, IS I WOULD. SO RIGHT NOW THE ROOFS ARE ALL SORT OF CONNECTING RIGHT IN, IN A, IN A YOU'RE DOING LIKE A TELESCOPING KIND OF GABLE STEPPING DOWN. RIGHT. I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY IN THAT LAST STEP DOWN WHERE IT'S ONLY THE GALLERY, RIGHT WHERE YOU'RE CLEAR OF THE VOLUME OF THE, OF THE PORCH AND ALL THAT IN PLAN. IT'S PROBABLY AN EIGHT FOOT LONG PIECE OF GALLERY. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO DO A FLAT ROOF AND GLASS ON BOTH SIDES. SO THAT THAT REALLY READS AS A SEPARATION. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND AS YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE STREET. AND THAT'S WHY THIS RENDERING IS REALLY THE ONE WE SEE THE BEST, RIGHT? WHERE YOU WOULD SEE A DISTINCT SEPARATION BETWEEN THE HOUSES, THERE'D STILL BE JOINED. IT'S STILL AIR CONDITIONED SPACE, BUT THAT THAT THING ALLOWS YOU TO SEPARATE THAT ONE. AND IT ALLOWS THE ROOFS ALSO TO WORK INDEPENDENTLY OF EACH OTHER AS WELL. SO WHATEVER YOU DO ON ONE ROOF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED TO REROOF ONE OF THEM IN THE FUTURE OR SOMETHING, YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO DOING IT ALL TOGETHER, RIGHT? IT'S A CLEAN SEPARATION AND I THINK IT WOULD HELP THE TWO HOUSES READ SEPARATELY. RIGHT. IT'S A LITTLE CHANGE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY. MR. SILVA, CAN I YEAH, CAN I ADD SO I AGREE 100%. I THINK EVEN JUST REMOVING THE PITCH AND MAKING IT A FLAT ROOF ACROSS WOULD MAKE SENSE. I THINK IT MIGHT BE TIED INTO THE PORCH ROOF IN THE BACK THAT YOU'RE ADDING. SO IT QUITE FRANKLY, COULD ALL BE FLAT. AND THEN THAT WAY THAT WHOLE PLANE IS FLAT. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE TWO HOUSES HAVE THEIR OWN ROOF SYSTEMS, AND THEN IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THEY'RE SEPARATE. AND I KNOW YOU MAYBE HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO WORK. WELL, I THOUGHT OF IT AND I GOT MY CLIENTS TOLD ME IF I WANTED TO STAY ON THE PROJECT.
I BETTER FIGURE OUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. OKAY. YOU'RE STILL EMPLOYED NOW. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. ALEX. SO THE. AND THEN. SO THAT'S JUST GENERAL. I THINK IN GENERAL, THE PROJECT IS VERY GOOD. IT'S VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT. I GUESS WE CAN. IN TERMS OF THE VARIANCES, I THINK THE AGAIN THE SIDE VARIANCES ARE A SLAM DUNK. I SORT OF FALL IN DONNA'S CAMP. ON THE INTERPRETATION OF THE OTHER VARIANTS ON THE F A R IN TERMS OF, OF THE, OF THE WAY WE ANALYZE THIS AND LOOK AT THIS, I THINK IT IS MERITED IN THIS CASE, IF THAT ZONING AMENDMENT HAS PASSED, EVEN BETTER. AND IF THE EXISTING HOUSE IF ONE OF THOSE EXISTING HOUSES IS AN EXISTING NONCONFORMANCE OR VERY, VERY CLOSE TO IT, THEN THAT HELPS AS WELL. BUT I WOULD PERSONALLY, I WOULD VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE VARIANCE. THE THE WINDOWS, THE MOUNTAIN PATTERN
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ON THE WINDOWS. SO I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT THE ROUND PIECE DOESN'T DOESN'T GET THEM. AND TO ME, WE'RE DOING SO MUCH WORK IN TERMS OF CHANGING THE OPENINGS. AND THERE'S SO FEW OPENINGS ON THAT, ON THAT, ON THE SMALLER HOME THAT I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT. THE TWO PIECE BARREL TILE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING. AGAIN, I KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT IT CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A, A NO BRAINER, RIGHT? THAT IT SHOULD BE TWO PIECE BARREL. NOW THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS A VERY STRANGE SITUATION. AND IF THERE WAS A BREAK BETWEEN THE TWO ROOFS, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS THAT IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION, RIGHT? IT'S TWO DISTINCT VOLUMES. AND MAYBE THAT THAT COULD BE ENTERTAINED BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF HISTORIC INFORMATION ON THAT.2515 RIGHT. EVEN THOUGH IT'S INCORPORATED AS PART OF THE PARCEL. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WERE GETTING AT BEFORE WHEN WE WERE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION. BUT IF THERE'S A BREAK BETWEEN THE TWO, THEN MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD THAT THAT I COULD CONSIDER. AND I THINK THAT I THINK THOSE ARE ALL, THOSE ARE THE MAIN ISSUES YOU HAD, RIGHT? THE WHAT ABOUT THE FRONT DOOR? THE FRONT DOOR? KIND OF ON THE FENCE. BUT BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT INTEGRITY OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE, I WOULD, I WOULD, I THINK I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF LEAVING IT SOLID, LEAVING, LEAVING THE ORIGINAL ONE, LEAVING THE ORIGINAL ONE IF IT'S IN DECENT SHAPE. BUT IF IT'S NOT OR REPLICATE IT AS IS. OKAY, MR. SILVA, YOU'RE DONE.
YES. OKAY. MISS ROLANDO, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M IN THE TWO PIECE BARREL TILE. I'M NOT GOING WITH THIS. OKAY. MISS SHIELD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE THE ATTORNEYS, JUST TO COMMENT THAT ONE HISTORIC HOME IS A PROJECT AND AND PUTTING THE TWO TOGETHER. I THINK IT'S YOU'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO, TO DO THAT AND YOU'RE TAKING ON THAT TASK. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT, MISS ALVAREZ, ANYTHING ELSE? YOU'VE GOT SOME NOTES IN FRONT OF YOU JUST QUICK. SO I THINK WE LOCATED. PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE. IF YOU WANT. WE LOCATED THE TEXT AMENDMENT. IF YOU WANT TO HEAR IT. ANNA HAS IT. SO THERE'S A PORTION THAT WAS ADDED IN SEPTEMBER THAT WAS. STARTING AT 1 OR 2 STORY OPEN AIR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES MAY BE ATTACHED TO THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING, SUBJECT TO THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTS.
REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE MASSING OF THE OPEN AIR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AS IT RELATES TO THE BUILDING. DETACHED ACCESSORY BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES SHALL MAINTAIN A MINIMUM SEPARATION OF FIVE FEET FROM THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING. TO ENCOURAGE HISTORIC DESIGNATION, THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTS SHALL HAVE AUTHORITY TO GRANT A 10% INCREASE OF GROUND AREA COVERAGE TO ACCOMMODATE HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED STRUCTURES, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS OF THAT BOARD. DOES IT SAY DETACHED? NO. YOU SAID ATTACHED. NO. YEAH.
THEY CAN BE ATTACHED BUT COUNTED IN THE DETACHED NUMBER. I'M SORRY, I JUST HEARD DETACHED. I'M SORRY. COULD YOU READ THAT AGAIN? MORE SLOWLY SO WE COULD HEAR AND UNDERSTAND.
YOU'VE GOT TO SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT INTO THE MIC. SO IT STARTS WITH A MAXIMUM OF 35% OF THE BUILDING SITE SHALL BE COVERED BY THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING, AND SHALL INCLUDE CANTILEVERED PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING, EXCEPT BALCONIES, ACCESSORY BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES, INCLUDING SWIMMING POOLS MAY OCCUPY ADDITIONAL GROUND COVERAGE, BUT THE TOTAL GROUND AREA COVERAGE OCCUPIED BY THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING OR STRUCTURE AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES SHALL NOT EXCEED 45% OF THE BUILDING SITE. 1 OR 2 STORY OPEN AIR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES MAY BE ATTACHED TO THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING, SUBJECT TO THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTS. REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE MASSING OF THE OPEN AIR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AS IT RELATES TO THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING. DETACHED ACCESSORY BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES SHALL MAINTAIN A MINIMUM SEPARATION OF FIVE FEET FROM THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING. TO ENCOURAGE HISTORIC DESIGNATION, THE BOARD OF ARCHITECTS SHALL HAVE AUTHORITY TO GRANT A 10% INCREASE OF GROUND AREA COVERAGE TO ACCOMMODATE HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED STRUCTURES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS OF THAT BOARD. THANK YOU. SO I THINK THAT SOLVES THE PROBLEM. YEP. OH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, COME UP WITH CHRIS. LET'S TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING THERE AT THE END USERS OF THE PROPERTY.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE. SO WHAT YOU'VE HEARD SO FAR, I THINK YOU WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE DOOR. RIGHT. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND FOR SUPPORTING THE PROJECT. WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH WITH STAFF AND APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND DEDICATION THAT THEY'VE GIVEN TO US TO PRESERVE THE HOME. FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO HELP US
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WITH SOME OF THE CONDITIONS. I THINK THE ONLY ONE WE WOULD WANT TO DISCUSS A LITTLE FURTHER MAY BE THAT FRONT DOOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, FOR. 2509, WE HAD ORIGINALLY, AS WE HAD SAID, IT'S A VERY DARK HOME AND WE HAD ORIGINALLY EXPLORED HAVING A WINDOW THERE IN THE FRONT, BUT WE REALIZED THAT THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE INTEGRITY OF THAT, OF THAT STRUCTURE. AND WE WANTED TO MAINTAIN THAT AT ALL COST, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE PUTTING A LOT OF COST INTO MAINTAINING THAT PROPERTY. AND SO WE THOUGHT IS TO ALSO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY WE COULD HAVE REPLICATE AND MIMIC THAT FRONT SCREEN. AND WE COULD ACCOMPLISH TWO THINGS BY DOING THAT, RIGHT? FIRST, THE INTEGRITY OF THE HOME. BECAUSE WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT AND YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES ON THE BLOCK, THEY DO HAVE THAT SCREEN.AND THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY THING YOU SEE. AND SO WE DID LOOK AT SOME SAMPLES AND SOME MODELS OF WHAT COULD BE DONE, WHICH WOULD HELP US ACCOMPLISH MANY THINGS. ONE WOULD BE LIGHT INTO THAT SPACE WITHOUT HAVING TO RUIN THE FRONT FACADE INTEGRITY. IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW US TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE VISUAL LOOK, BECAUSE IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THAT WOOD DOOR, IT DOES ELIMINATE SORT OF THE, THE, THE CARVINGS AND THE SPACE THAT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THAT ARCHITECTURAL BECAUSE THAT BIG WHITE SORT OF BLOCK DOOR DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE FLOW IN OUR PERSPECTIVE FROM WHAT WE SAW. SO IT WOULD HELP US ACCOMPLISH THAT. THE OTHER THING, THAT DOOR IS ACTUALLY EXTREMELY DETERIORATED. IT HAS MOLD, HAS BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS, AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE. AND IT ALSO DOESN'T ALLOW US FOR HURRICANE SAFETY. ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT MARIO ALLUDED TO IS I HAVE 92 YEAR OLD PARENTS, AND THE GOAL OF ACTUALLY ATTACHING THESE HOMES IS ACTUALLY TO MOVE THEM IN WITH US. AND SO AGAIN, I THINK FOR SAFETY AND FOR INTEGRITY, WE'D ALSO LIKE YOU TO RECONSIDER FOR FOR SUPPORT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. RESERVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL IF NECESSARY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL BE SURE TO ASK YOU ANY QUESTIONS IF WE HAVE THEM. OKAY.
WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THIS PORTION AND WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE IN THIS AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS, OTHER THAN THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN? HEARING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE? THERE ARE NONE. SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD. OKAY.
BOARD DISCUSSION. I SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS PREVIOUSLY. CAN I CAN I SEE THE IMAGE OF THE BRONZE TINTED WINDOW? NO, I JUST WANT TO SEE IT BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT. I HAVE I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT ON THAT. I JUST WANT TO SEE IT BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED IT AND I HAVEN'T SEEN IT AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S IF YOU CAN SHARE THE SCREEN WITH ME, THAT'D BE GREAT. WE WILL SHOW IT AS WE DON'T HAVE IT. SO AS WE GET IT ON, AS SOON AS WE GET ONLINE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW IT. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU CAN LITERALLY JUST SHOW THE SCREEN TO ALL OF US HERE. IS IT RELEVANT? CESAR? IT'S PART OF THE CONDITION. SO IT IS. IT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED SO THAT IT'S CLEAR FOR STAFF AND HOW TO MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE OUR TYPICAL RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO WITH A CLEAR GLASS. I UNDERSTAND YOU GOT TO GET A LITTLE CLOSER. THEY WANT TO GO WITH A GLASS THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A TINT, SO THAT IT FALLS IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE PROPERTY. SO WE, WE WOULD LOOK AT IT TYPICALLY ADMINISTRATIVELY, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WANT TO LOOK AT, THEY AND THEY HAVE AN EXAMPLE, IT'S PROBABLY IMPORTANT TO SEE HE WANTS TO SEE IT. KHGI-TV CAN WE SHARE SCREENS? OH OH OKAY. WELL, WE HAD IT UP A SECOND AGO, SO WE'LL GET IT. IT IS A VERY MINOR DIFFERENCE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM ALSO THOUGH FOR HEAT THE. BECAUSE ONE OF THE HOUSES HAS THE TINT ALREADY 2515 DOES HAVE A TINT IN THE GLASS. BECAUSE IF IT'S A PURE ENERGY ISSUE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH MEP ENGINEERS, ADJUSTING THE OTHER SYSTEMS TO GET IT A CLEAR GLASS TO WORK.
TO AVOID ANY OTHER. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HERE OR ANY DISCUSSION HERE ON THE BOARD HERE? AS WE'RE CONTEMPLATING FURTHER, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM. HANG ON, MISS SPAIN, I'M TALKING TO MISS ROLANDO. MISS ROLANDO, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE HELL DOOR AND THE WINDOW. RIGHT. THANK YOU. DOORS IN THE PRESENTATION. SO. OKAY, THE PRESENTATION PLEASE. OH. MR. CHAIR, WE COULD WE COULD PROBABLY TAKE A WE COULD
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PROBABLY TAKE A VOTE ON THE VARIANTS. IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. I'M SORRY. WE COULD WE COULD PROBABLY TAKE A VOTE ON THE VARIANCES AS WE LOOK AT THE OTHER THINGS. YEAH. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE THE FIRST APPROVAL RIGHT NOW. WE CAN WAIT JUST A LITTLE BIT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE IN ORDER, DO THEY, MR. ATTORNEY? NO. OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE A VARIANCE TO ALLOW GROUND AREA COVERAGE, OR WE WILL HAVE A MOTION TO DO THAT OF 5010. SO WOULD BE THE NUMBER THE SECOND APPROVAL. TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BOARD. SEE IF WE WANT TO MOVE THAT TOGETHER FIRST AND THEN GO TO THE. ONE THAT APPROVES ALL THE ARCHITECTURE AS WELL, I THINK. WERE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS? I FEEL LIKE THERE WASN'T GOING TO SAY ON THE FRONT DOOR ISSUE IF IT'S DETERIORATED, I. I APPRECIATE THE IMAGES OF THE SCREEN DOOR, AND I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF THEY ELIMINATED THE ORIGINAL DOOR AND JUST HAD THAT SCREEN. I THINK IT WOULD, I THINK WOULD BE PROBABLY BACK TO WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE ORIGINALLY MORE THAN THAN HAVING THAT THAT DOOR THERE. MISS ALVAREZ, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? OH, I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THE INITIAL COMMENTS I HAD. I DIDN'T GET TO SHARE THAT. SO IN GENERAL, I, I STRUGGLE WITH TWO HOUSES COMING TOGETHER, BUT I KNOW THIS IS DONE VERY SKILLFULLY AND I UNDERSTAND ALL THE REASONS. THAT I GUESS BROUGHT THE GROUP TO THIS DECISION. AND I, I COMPLIMENT THE TEAM AND THE ARCHITECT FOR THE SUBTLE CONNECTION. I THINK THE 30 INCH WALLS ARE ARE NICE AND HELP WITH THE LAYERING OF THE HOUSE. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP. I HAVE FOUND THAT ON THE STYLE, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T GO PAST 17 OR 18 YEARS. SO AT SOME POINT IF YOU HAVE TO CHANGE IT, LIKE WE WERE SAYING, IT WOULD BE NICE TO BRING IT ALL TO BARREL AND I'M OKAY WITH THE THREE VARIANCES. ALL RIGHT.THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIR, WE DO HAVE THE TINT UP ON THE SCREEN NOW. I'M SORRY. YEAH. HERE WE GO. WE HAVE THE TINT UP ON THE SCREEN. IT'S A BETTER. SO THAT'S CLEAR. EXCUSE ME. THAT'S BRONZE. OKAY, DO THE CLEAR FIRST. THAT'S CLEAR. OKAY.
BRONZE. YEAH. THERE'S NO SAMPLES. BUT IF YOU DO A DIFFERENT COLOR, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU START TELLING THE DIFFERENCE. SO IT JUST DOESN'T WORK ON THE SCREEN. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO, MR. CHAIR, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE VARIANCES UNLESS YOU WANT. I'VE GOT I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. NO, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT. I YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO TO BRING THIS HOUSE BACK. AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE THE PROPERTY OWNERS DISCUSSION OF DARKNESS, BUT I ALSO KNOW HOW TO PUT LIGHTS IN A HOUSE. AND YOU'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO REALLY TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING. ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD IS AN EROSION OF THE CHARACTER OF HOMES IN THE BACK OF THE HOME. IT'S FINE, BUT IN THE FRONT IS OUR PRINCIPAL PRINCIPAL FACADES. AND IT'S REALLY VERY IMPORTANT TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THESE BECAUSE AS WE LET ONE GO, THEN EVERYBODY ELSE GETS LET GO. IF WE BEGIN TO CHANGE AND CHANGE OUR STANDARDS, THEN THEN THE STANDARDS GET CHANGED AND WE NO LONGER HAVE THE PRESERVATION, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE SEEKING. YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSAL IS EXCELLENT. THIS IS REALLY VERY GOOD, NELSON, AND I APPLAUD ALL OF YOU FOR DOING THIS, RATHER THAN BUILDING SOMETHING UP HIGH AND SEEKING TO CONNECT THIS, THE COMMENTS THAT THAT THE BOARD HAS MADE ARE VERY GOOD.
AND I THINK THAT THEY ADD TO THIS THE COMMENTS THAT THE STAFF HAS, I THINK ARE EXCEPTIONAL. AND IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. THERE'S A LOT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE DONE WITH THIS. AND I THINK THAT WHAT'S GOING ON AND THE PROPOSALS ARE GOOD, BUT WHAT THE BOARD IS TASKED WITH IS TRYING TO MAINTAIN STANDARDS TO A BARREL TILE ROOF, TWO PIECES, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'VE GIVEN YOU A GOOD SOLUTION TO DO THAT. TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS. OKAY. AND WHEN THE OTHER BUILDING COMES BACK, OKAY, IT WOULD HAVE HAD BARREL TILE, TWO PIECE BARREL TILE ORIGINALLY TOO. SO WHEN THAT COMES BACK, THERE'LL BE A MATCH. YOU KNOW, I WOULD ALSO BE VERY KEEN TO SAY THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A GHOST OUTLINE WHERE THE WHERE THE GARAGE IS BEING REMOVED. AND I WOULD EVEN CONSIDER LARGER WINDOWS, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE OR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO SHOW THAT THAT WAS A VOID AT SOME TIME. BECAUSE AS YOU MOVE ACROSS, YOU KNOW, IT, IT BEGINS TO MAKE IT SLIGHTLY MASSIVE IN MY OPINION. I WOULD ALSO HIGHLY ENCOURAGE A
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DEEP LANDSCAPING WHERE WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL THE HYPHEN THAT CONNECTS THE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, COMES TOGETHER. SO SO THAT IT READS FROM THE STREET NICELY. I WALK BY THIS ALL THE TIME AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN DISTRESSED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE IS FALLING INTO DISREPAIR, BUT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY GRATEFUL THAT IT'S THAT IT'S LIKE IT IS INTACT. AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO ASPIRE TO. WE'RE ALL SPENDING A LOT. EVERYBODY SPENDS A LOT OF MONEY DOING THESE THINGS. SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND THE RIGHT THING FOR THE FUTURE, NOT JUST FOR US TODAY, BUT BUT INTO THE FUTURE. I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT HISTORIC PAINT COLORS AND THINGS. YOU KNOW, MOST OF THESE HOUSES WERE NOT REALLY PAINTED. THAT STUCCO WAS THERE, PARTICULARLY IN THE 20S, AND IT WAS JUST RAW. BUT THE THE WINDOWS WERE ALL DARK BECAUSE THEY WERE WOOD. AND MAYBE IN THE 30S THEY WERE METAL AS WELL, BUT THEY WERE ALWAYS PAINTED A DARKER COLOR, YOU KNOW, TO CONTRAST FROM THE HOUSE. AND SO THAT THERE'S SOME MOVEMENT. SO IT'S SOMETHING WORTH LOOKING INTO. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THAT THIS IS REALLY AN EXCELLENT, AN EXCELLENT SOLUTION. AND I ENCOURAGE YOU, YOU KNOW, TO CONTINUE ON WITH IT. SO THANK YOU. OKAY, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. MR. CHAIR. CAN MR. DILLON, COULD YOU CONFIRM THAT ONE INCH RECESS WHERE THE GARAGE DOOR IS? BECAUSE WE COULDN'T READ IT ON THE PLANS, BUT I THINK IT'S THERE. JUST FOR MR. MAXWELL'S BECAUSE WE COULDN'T READ THE WORDS. YES.IT'S THERE. THANK YOU. IT'S A SLIGHT OFFSET OR JUST ONE INCH OFFSET. IT'S A SLIGHT OFFSET.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, BOARD, MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD. YES, IF YOUR INDULGENCE. JUST ONE QUICK POINT, ESPECIALLY ON THE ON THE WINDOW TINTING AS IT OCCURRED. IF I COULD JUST ASK CCTV TO TAKE DOWN THE TOP POWERPOINT SINCE WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION NOW. YEP. THANK YOU.
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AND YOU AGREE WITH THE REST OF THE TERMS. YOU AGREE WITH THE REST OF THE CONDITIONS. THERE IS A TYPO ON THE LAST VARIANCE. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. SO IT'S A VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE ADDITION AND PORCH REAR SIDE STEP REAR SETBACK AT FIVE FEET VERSUS THE REQUIRED MINIMUM REAR SETBACK VERSUS WHAT IT'S WRITTEN THERE AS SIDE. SO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. YEAH. OKAY.MISS SPAIN, WOULD YOU DO ME ONE FAVOR, PLEASE? WOULD YOU JUST STATE WHICH WHICH OF THE NUMBERS YOU ARE PROPOSING TO ELIMINATE. SO IT'S CLEAR NUMBER NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER FOUR.
OKAY. TO BE ELIMINATED FOR AND AND TWO AND FIVE ARE TO WORK WITH STAFF. I'M SAYING THAT IT'S OKAY TO ELIMINATE THE ORIGINAL DOOR. I THINK IT'S A UNIQUE SITUATION THAT THEY HAVE A SCREEN DOOR IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT THEY CAN REPLICATE. I WOULD NOT SAY THAT IF THERE WAS NEVER A SCREEN DOOR THERE, BUT IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THAT SCREEN DOOR WAS THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE. THAT'S MY VIEW. EVERYBODY HAD SCREEN DOORS. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MISS SPAIN. ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS, ANY JUST WOULD MISS SPAIN, WOULD YOU CONSIDER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? SURE. TO TO STUDY THE CONNECTOR TO HAVE A FLAT PORTION. OH I WOULD ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD IDEA AND I TO STUDY AND WORK WITH STAFF ON, ON, ON POSSIBLY DOING A FLAT PORTION. OKAY, SO WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION. DO WE WANT TO BE SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC AS TO MAKE IT A FLAT ROOF? I THINK IT'S I'M NOT PLANNING ON DOING THAT. NO. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. MR. SILVA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLARIFY YOUR AMENDMENT TO MAKE IT A FLAT ROOF RATHER THAN TWO? I'M HAPPY. I'M HAPPY TO STUDY. AND THAT'S OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT NUMBER FIVE IS ALSO TO BE STUDIED AS WELL. IS IT IS THE MOTION IS THE CONDITION TO STUDY OR TO MANDATE IT TO STUDY, TO STUDY IT. STUDY. WE WILL IN GOOD FAITH WILL STUDY THAT PROPOSAL WITH WITH STAFF. YEAH, I THINK I THINK YOU SHOULD GIVE IT A LOOK AT IT. THEY'VE NEVER LOOKED AT IT BEFORE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, GO FOR IT. OKAY, SO WE HAVE THAT. WE HAVE AMENDMENT. OKAY. YOU WANT TO CALL THE QUESTION. NO. OH I'M SORRY. WE NEED A SECOND. SECOND. YEAH, YEAH. I'LL SECOND. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MISS SPAIN AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. SILVA.
OKAY. CAN WE ENTERTAIN BOARD DISCUSSION FOR JUST A SECOND? YES WE MAY. SO I THINK IT'S AN INCREDIBLE PROJECT, BUT I THINK THAT ONE NON FLAT ROOF, THAT TELESCOPING ROOF IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH TO REALLY IMPACT THE WAY THAT I SEE THESE HOUSES COMMUNICATING. I THINK MR. SILVA EXPLAINED IT REALLY WELL AS TO WHAT IT COULD DO WITH THE ROOF FORMS AND THE SPACING BETWEEN MR. MAXWELL ABOUT HEAVILY LANDSCAPING THE FRONT OF IT SO THAT IT FROM THE STREET LOOKS LIKE IT'S TWO DIFFERENT HOMES, EVEN THOUGH IT IS CONNECTED AND IT'S GREAT THAT IT IS CONNECTED. I THINK THAT ROOF LINE IS, IN MY OPINION, A VERY IMPORTANT. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT CONNECTS THE TWO HOMES AND THE WAY THAT IT IS CURRENTLY DESIGNED, PARTICULARLY WITH TILES, ALBEIT S TILE OR BARREL TILE. I THINK THAT THE, THE, THE, THE HEIGHT OF THAT CONNECTION IS TO. IT BLURS THE LINE BETWEEN THE TWO SEPARATE HOUSES TOO STRONGLY, EVEN THOUGH IT IS FURTHER BACK, EVEN THOUGH IT IS LOWER, EVEN THOUGH IT DOES TELESCOPE, I THINK A FLAT ROOF, AT LEAST A PARAPET ON THE FRONT WOULD REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AS DISCUSSION AND I AGREE WITH THAT. AND I PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TILES, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE BARREL TILE ON THE HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED PORTION OF THIS, AND THEN THE TILE, I GUESS, WILL REMAIN BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REQUIRE THEM TO DO MORE AND DO AN ADDITIONAL ROOF. SO THE JOINING OF THOSE TWO WOULD BE IT WOULD BE HELPED BY HAVING THAT FLAT ROOF. BUT MY MOTION IS JUST TO STUDY IT. ARE WE GOOD BOARD. OKAY, SO IT'S IT'S A VERY SERIOUS STUDY AND SO
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IT'S WORTH CONTEMPLATION. OKAY, LET'S CALL THE ROLL. MISS ALVAREZ. YES. OKAY. MISS SHIELDS. I THINK THE STUDY HAS TO BE STRONGER, SO. NO. OKAY. MR. GARCIA PONCE, FOR THE PURPOSE. FOR THE REASONS MENTIONED BEFORE, THE ANSWER IS NO. OKAY. NO. MISS ROLANDO. YES.OKAY. MISS SPAIN. YES, MR. SILVA. YES. AND MR. MAXWELL. YES. OKAY. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. HOPEFULLY WE DIDN'T TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.
WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEE A FLAT ROOF, HYPHEN AND BARREL TILE. WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND KEEP THE FRONT DOOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT PROJECT NELSON, AS ALWAYS. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO SEND YOU TONIGHT. THE SKETCHES I ALREADY HAVE FOR FLAT ROOF. YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM JUST THE LAST EIGHT FEET. I DON'T KNOW, OKAY. WELL, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE HERE AT FIVE MINUTES AFTER 7:00. MISS PARIS, THANK YOU FOR MOVING THIS TO THE BACK. AND WHICH THIS WILL BE OUR MODUS OPERANDI IN THE FUTURE. THAT WAY, I
[VIII. OLD BUSINESS]
THINK WE'RE ABLE TO SEE MORE. MORE PEOPLE. OKAY, BOARD. IS THERE ANY OLD BUSINESS OF WHICH YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? I KNOW THE CONNECTION IS. I KNOW MRS. DANNY WOULD, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THINGS WITH MISS THROCKMORTON, BUT SHE'S NOT HERE TODAY. AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN DISCUSSION WITH THAT. AND THOSE RELATED TO OUR LAST MEETING WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PROCEDURES, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY FOR THAT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ON THAT, YOU KNOW, PRECEDENT TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT MISS DANNY AND MISS THROCKMORTON COME UP WITH? MISS DANNY SHOWED MISS MORTON A NUMBER OF OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAD SPECIFIC RULES AND REGULATIONS RELATED TO PRESENTATIONS, SHORTNESS, CONCISENESS, AND THOSE THINGS, I THINK, OF, WHICH WE'RE ALL CONCERNED WITH, YOU KNOW, AT SOME TIME, MOST OF THE PRESENTERS ARE STAY WITHIN A NICE SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, AND WE DO TRY TO ASK THEM TO DO SO. SO I THINK AS THE FUTURE GOES ON, IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD TO DO IT, PARTICULARLY AS WE HAVE MORE COMPLEX PROJECTS. I MEAN, YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS TOOK US FROM 5:00 UNTIL 7:00. RIGHT. AND SO WE HAD SHORT PRESENTATIONS, BUT IT WAS THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS LONG. SO IT WAS VERY GOOD. WE ASKED THE WE ASKED THE PRESENTERS, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE IT SHORT AND TO THE POINT. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS VERY GOOD. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THIS AGAIN AND HAVING A LITTLE FURTHER DISCUSSION LATER ON. AND IF THEY COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO[IX. NEW BUSINESS]
COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE THESE THINGS CHANGE, IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS, MISS FURNESS, THAT WE HAVE? I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION. OF COURSE, MAY IS NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE OR IT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD TO MAKE A PRESENTATION AT THE COMMISSION MEETING, MAYBE JUST ABOUT THE STATE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND CORAL GABLES. THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT. SO IN THE PAST, THE CITY COMMISSION HAS DONE A PROCLAMATION FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH, AND WE'LL TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. AGAIN. USUALLY, I BELIEVE CORELLIA OR I THINK EVEN THE VILLAGERS HAVE SUBMITTED FOR THAT. WE WE WE DID ALREADY. I WAS THINKING MORE OF A PRESENTATION FROM THE BOARD TO THE COMMISSION, MAYBE. AND THAT'S WHY I'M GIVING A HEADS UP BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S IT WON'T HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY IF WE WANT TO DO IT. BUT ANY TOPIC YOU WANT. BUT I WAS JUST KIND OF THINKING HOW MANY WHEN IT'S WHEN THE BOARD BEGAN, WHEN HOW MANY PROPERTIES ARE DESIGNATED, YOU KNOW, JUST AN OVERVIEW OF CORAL GABLES HISTORIC PRESERVATION, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DISTRICTS AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE INDIVIDUALLY ARE WOULD YOU LIKE, I MEAN, IT'S UP TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE ON WHO WOULD MAKE THAT PRESENTATION ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE DO IT. ACTUALLY, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD WITH MISS SHIELD. IT WOULD LIKE TO OBVIOUSLY, LIKE WOULD LIKE TO BE THERE. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO EXPAND THAT AS WELL AND WORK WITH THE STAFF ON A BRIEF, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED LAST YEAR AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S THERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO READ IT INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO[02:50:05]
DISCUSS WHAT IT IS THAT THE THREATS THAT WE'RE FACING AND THE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO BE DISCUSSING, YOU KNOW, AS A CITY AND HOW WE ADDRESS HISTORIC PRESERVATION, YOU KNOW, IN A IN A NICE GENERAL WAY. AND THE BENEFITS OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS THAT WE'RE AWARE OF, BUT MAYBE IT WOULD BE NICE TO EXPLAIN THE BENEFITS OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. IT'S ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE REASONS WHY PEOPLE LIKE CORAL GABLES. YEAH.SO IF THERE'S TALKING POINTS THAT YOU ALL WANT TO SEND TO ME SO I CAN PUT THEM TOGETHER AND THEN PRESENT THEM TO THE BOARD AT THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE YOU ALL WILL HAVE TO AGREE ON WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD. THAT WOULD BE FINE. THANK YOU. CAN YOU PROVIDE US, MICHELLE, PLEASE? SEND THINGS IN? YEAH, I CAN, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SEND ME WHATEVER. I CAN WORK ON TALKING POINTS, PLEASE SEND THEM TO ME. CAN YOU. OH YES. THE THE TRAIN, THE SUNSHINE. THANK YOU. CAN YOU SEND THE BOARD THE. DO WE DO AN ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE COMMISSION? WE HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORT ALREADY THAT'S ALREADY SUBMITTED TO YOU. FORWARD THAT TO THE BOARD SO THAT WE CAN JUDGE THE BASIS. THANK YOU. ON THE PRESENTATION BOARD. I'D REALLY LIKE SEVERAL OF US TO BE THERE. AT LEAST THREE. AT LEAST THREE. AND IF EVERYBODY CAN COME, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE EVEN BETTER. YEAH. SO IF YOU CAN GET US A GENERAL SCHEDULE ABOUT. YEAH, WE USUALLY ASK FOR A TIME CERTAIN IF IT'S A BOARD ITEM. SO WE COULD ASK FOR THAT TOO. SO IT'D BE LIKE THE BEGINNING OF MAY OR THE END OF APRIL, I BELIEVE THERE'S ONLY 1ST APRIL MEETING, SO IT WOULD LIKELY BE THE MAY MEETING. SO MAY. I'LL LOOK AT THE DATES.
THERE'S TWO MAIN MEETINGS. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU, MICHELLE. THAT'S VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY GOOD. OKAY. NEW BUSINESS. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR LEGAL? I'M LATE TO ANOTHER MEETING. YEAH. NO, I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO SEE YOU LATER. OKAY. SO THAT WAS A COMMISSION ITEM AS WELL. SO WE'VE GOT THAT. WE MOVED DOWN THE AGENDA. ANY OTHER NEW
[X. CITY COMMISSION ITEMS]
BUSINESS FOLKS? ANYBODY WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING? NO. OKAY. I WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THAT I HAVE SENT TO THE CITY COMMISSION A, A PROPOSAL TO BY A GEORGE FINK BUILDING.AND THIS IS LOCATED AT SALAMANCA AND GALIANO. AND IT CONSISTS OF OF TWO PARCELS, BUT IT'S IN ONE PROPERTY. IT'S FOR SALE FOR $2 MILLION. IT'S A FOUR. IT'S A ONE OF THEM IS A FOUR UNIT. 1925 GEORGE FINK. IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST APARTMENT BUILDING REMAINING IN THE NORTH, AND ACTUALLY IN ONE OF THE BEST IN THE CITY. AND IT'S ATTACHED TO A VACANT LOT, WHICH COULD BE A PARK. I PROVIDED A BASIC FINANCING PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, PUT THE BUILDING ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER, USE PARK FUNDS TO BUY THE VACANT LOT. OKAY. AT $1 MILLION, IF YOU DIVIDE IT THAT WAY, IT'S $1 MILLION FOR EACH PIECE OF PROPERTY. YOU CAN'T BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN CORAL GABLES FOR UNDER $1 MILLION, SO IT'S REASONABLY PRICED. OKAY. THE, THE I'VE TALKED TO THE MAYOR AND SEVERAL OF THE CITY COMMISSIONERS ABOUT A PROPERTY THAT WE COULD USE AS CORAL GABLES HOUSE, YOU KNOW, TO PUT UP GUESTS AND THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE THAT, ENTERTAIN PEOPLE, PUTS PEOPLE OVER AND OR OUR STAFF, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO TO DO THESE THINGS. AND SO IF I WOULD LIKE ALL OF YOU TO KIND OF BRING THIS UP TO OUR COMMISSIONERS IS, IF YOU WOULD, AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MOVE ON. I'VE ALSO PROPOSED ANOTHER PROPERTY JUST RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MARRIOTT, AND I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO LOOK AT IT. I WANT TO SAY THAT'S ON PAISANO AND IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK, AND IT'S AN EIGHT UNIT APARTMENT THAT IS STUNNING.
FROM THE OUTSIDE, IT'S ALMOST INTACT AND FROM THE INSIDE WALK IN. IT'S A GALLERY. IT'S A GALLERIED COURTYARD. THAT'S THAT'S LENGTHY. IT GOES BACK. BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES ALSO HAVE PARKING, SO THEY'RE GOOD. THEY'RE THE TWO BEST THAT WE HAVE REMAINING IN THE CITY. AND SO I THINK IT WOULD REALLY BE GOOD TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT THOSE AND PRESERVE THEM. OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THEM. WE ARE LOSING THESE APARTMENTS VERY, VERY QUICKLY. SO, MR. MAXWELL, NOW THAT THAT'S PUT INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD, CAN HE FORWARD IT TO YOU GUYS AND YOU FORWARDED TO US SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE PROPOSAL. YEAH. YES, YES I CAN. IS THAT ALL RIGHT? YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. COULD YOU PLEASE DO THAT? YES, I BELIEVE I HAVE ONE OF THE PROPOSALS THAT YOU HAD SUBMITTED. I'LL DOUBLE CHECK. I'LL. I'LL WORK WITH YOU. THE COMMISSIONERS RECEIVED BOTH PROPOSALS, BUT THE ONE PROPOSAL IS IS HOT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS LISTED ON THE MARKET, RIGHT? BOTH OF THEM TO STAFF. AND THEN THEY CAN SEND. YEAH. HAPPY TO COORDINATE WITH YOU. I WILL SEND IT TO YOU. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS? ANYBODY NEED TO LEAVE IMMEDIATELY. LET'S GO. YEAH. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR
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